[hobbit] Questions about migrating from BB

[Josh Luthman]

Compare the first host voodoo.hswn.dk:
http://xymon.com/hobbit/servers/servers.html

With it's bb-host here:
http://xymon.com/hobbit-cgi/viewconf.sh

I think that answers your question.  Let me know if otherwise.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu>wrote:

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> One, possibly last, question:
>
> In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
> and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to lose
> the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
> figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
> believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
> point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?
>
> Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
> disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
> "BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
> appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The BBNET
> machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
> clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> > Apparently not. :-\
> >
> > Checking for RRDtool ...
> > RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED for
> hobbitd
> > RRDtool can be found at
> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/<http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
> > If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and "--rrdlib
> DIR"
> > options to configure to specify where they are.
> >
> > I guess no big deal.
> >
> > Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> From memory..few years of dust on that...
> >
> >> After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it can't
> >> be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would skip over
> >> the RRDtool parts.  Also, like you said, ./configure.server --help may
> >> answer that better.
> >
> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> >> improbable, must be the truth."
> >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu
> >> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
> >
> >> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
> >>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
> >> display,
> >>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
> >>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
> >> I can
> >>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
> >>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
> >>> When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only have to
> >>> install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW pages).  If
> >>> you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
> >> configure
> >>> just say you don't have rrdtool.  The bbproxy/net machines have no
> >> need
> >>> for rrdtool.  Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
> >> help in
> >>> several cases.
> >> Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
> >> these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
> >> display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a way to
> >> say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I suppose,
> >> but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often present
> >> in other software.
> >
> >>> I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to read
> >>> through the archives.  From my understanding, it is by host not
> >> test as
> >>> well.
> >> Thanks, I'll hunt around.
> >
> >>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
> >> in BB? I
> >>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
> >> (Escalation is
> >>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
> >> from
> >>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
> >>> Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
> >>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
> >> Thanks.
> >
> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
> >> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> >>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>> wrote:
> >>> Good afternoon,
> >>> I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
> >> have
> >>> currently installed it and am testing it out.
> >>> My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
> >>> machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a firewall and
> >>> are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
> >>> I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects of it
> >>> that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
> >>> for them:
> >>> First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
> >> simple
> >>> as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
> >> this
> >>> seems pretty easy.
> >>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
> >>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
> >> display,
> >>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
> >>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
> >> I can
> >>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
> >>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
> >>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
> >> BB? I
> >>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
> >> (Escalation is
> >>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
> >> from
> >>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
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