[hobbit] Questions about migrating from BB

Thu Sep 17 18:47:16 CEST 2009

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Yeah, I took a look at that before writing. There's nothing missing that
I can see that refers to anything like that. Only think I can think of
is that the client piece may not be using the same hostname as my
machine. I don't know what xymon does in cases where one is using FQDN
and one isn't. My bb-hosts line is:

130.219.34.102  xymon.umdnj.edu # BBDISPLAY bbd ssh !telnet !ftp

So I'm only missing some extraneous stuff, if I compare it to their
line. I don't think the CLIENT piece is strictly required. I guess I
will re-read the man page for bb-hosts.

Josh Luthman wrote:
> Compare the first host voodoo.hswn.dk <http://voodoo.hswn.dk>:
> http://xymon.com/hobbit/servers/servers.html
> 
> With it's bb-host here:
> http://xymon.com/hobbit-cgi/viewconf.sh
> 
> I think that answers your question.  Let me know if otherwise.
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
> 
> One, possibly last, question:
> 
> In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
> and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to lose
> the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
> figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
> believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
> point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?
> 
> Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
> disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
> "BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
> appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The BBNET
> machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
> clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Ryan Novosielski wrote:
>> Apparently not. :-\
> 
>> Checking for RRDtool ...
>> RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED
> for hobbitd
>> RRDtool can be found at
> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/
> <http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
>> If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and
> "--rrdlib DIR"
>> options to configure to specify where they are.
> 
>> I guess no big deal.
> 
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>> From memory..few years of dust on that...
> 
>>> After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it
> can't
>>> be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would
> skip over
>>> the RRDtool parts.  Also, like you said, ./configure.server
> --help may
>>> answer that better.
> 
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> 
> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski
> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>> wrote:
> 
>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>>> display,
>>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
>>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>>> I can
>>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>>> When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only
> have to
>>>> install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW
> pages).  If
>>>> you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
>>> configure
>>>> just say you don't have rrdtool.  The bbproxy/net machines have no
>>> need
>>>> for rrdtool.  Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
>>> help in
>>>> several cases.
>>> Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
>>> these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
>>> display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a
> way to
>>> say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I
> suppose,
>>> but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often
> present
>>> in other software.
> 
>>>> I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to read
>>>> through the archives.  From my understanding, it is by host not
>>> test as
>>>> well.
>>> Thanks, I'll hunt around.
> 
>>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
>>> in BB? I
>>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>>> (Escalation is
>>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>>> from
>>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
>>>> Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
>>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
>>> Thanks.
> 
>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
>>> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>
>>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>>> wrote:
>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>> I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
>>> have
>>>> currently installed it and am testing it out.
>>>> My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
>>>> machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a
> firewall and
>>>> are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
>>>> I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects
> of it
>>>> that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
>>>> for them:
>>>> First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
>>> simple
>>>> as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
>>> this
>>>> seems pretty easy.
>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>>> display,
>>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
>>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>>> I can
>>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
>>> BB? I
>>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>>> (Escalation is
>>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>>> from
>>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
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