[hobbit] Questions about migrating from BB

[Ryan Novosielski]

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One, possibly last, question:

In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to lose
the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?

Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
"BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The BBNET
machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.

Thanks for any help!

Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> Apparently not. :-\
> 
> Checking for RRDtool ...
> RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED for hobbitd
> RRDtool can be found at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/
> If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and "--rrdlib DIR"
> options to configure to specify where they are.
> 
> I guess no big deal.
> 
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> From memory..few years of dust on that...
> 
>> After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it can't
>> be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would skip over
>> the RRDtool parts.  Also, like you said, ./configure.server --help may
>> answer that better.
> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
> 
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu
>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
> 
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>> display,
>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>> I can
>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>> When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only have to
>>> install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW pages).  If
>>> you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
>> configure
>>> just say you don't have rrdtool.  The bbproxy/net machines have no
>> need
>>> for rrdtool.  Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
>> help in
>>> several cases.
>> Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
>> these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
>> display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a way to
>> say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I suppose,
>> but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often present
>> in other software.
> 
>>> I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to read
>>> through the archives.  From my understanding, it is by host not
>> test as
>>> well.
>> Thanks, I'll hunt around.
> 
>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
>> in BB? I
>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>> (Escalation is
>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>> from
>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
>>> Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
>> Thanks.
> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
>> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>> wrote:
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
>> have
>>> currently installed it and am testing it out.
>>> My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
>>> machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a firewall and
>>> are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
>>> I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects of it
>>> that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
>>> for them:
>>> First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
>> simple
>>> as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
>> this
>>> seems pretty easy.
>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>> display,
>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>> I can
>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
>> BB? I
>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>> (Escalation is
>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>> from
>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
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