[hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Mon Nov 5 22:25:26 CET 2007

I just tried this:

Going to the main hobbit server and adding the summary line:
summary holidayinn.All holidayinn.ip.1.2 http://holidayinn/hobbit/

When I did this the main server contacted the hotel server and the at the
bottom of bb.html on the hotel server had this summary.  Oops?

Next I put that same config with the reverse IP on the hotel server.  This
worked and voids my last question question above.

Thank you all for your help!  Thanks a ton!

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:
>
>  That sounds about right.  I don't know of any alternative if you can't
> drill into the remote server.  If it is not accessible, then you are
> probably hosed in many ways.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:57 PM
> *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
>
> If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I would add:
>
> Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/
>
> Correct?
>
> What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not able to
> access the web pages from outside the hotel network?
>
> Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting it =)
>
> On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:
> >
> >  look in the docs for "summary"
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
> > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> >
> >  Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is
> > easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.
> >
> > I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host.
> > The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need
> > to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.
> >
> > This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the
> > tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine it is
> > simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation
> > in the hobbitserver.cfg.
> >
> > Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?
> >
> > Josh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Ah.  You have a couple of options.
> > >
> > > a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
> > > server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer clients
> > > must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the
> > > bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.
> > >
> > > b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer
> > > location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single dot
> > > that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked to the
> > > Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have to keep updating
> > > your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.
> > >
> > > And you can mix and match these methods.
> > >
> > > GLH
> > >
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > > *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
> > > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > > *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> > >
> > >  I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't
> > > going to change and the hosts are not identical.
> > >
> > > Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit
> > > server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
> > > things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
> > > get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
> > > points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
> > > that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.
> > >
> > > The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
> > > guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
> > > another page that includes the hotel's hosts.
> > >
> > > Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(
> > >
> > > Josh
> > >
> > > On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
> > > > made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using
> > > > Net:foo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
> > > > won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
> > > > bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from
> > > > one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you
> > > > have any errors in the bb-display log?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Tod Hansmann*
> > > >
> > > > Network Engineer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.directpointe.com/>
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > > > *Sent: *Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
> > > > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tod,
> > > >
> > > > I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
> > > > information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
> > > > from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).
> > > >
> > > > Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it
> > > > seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required -
> > > > is this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
> > > > bbdisplays?
> > > >
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* < thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own
> > > > tests, and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
> > > > aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
> > > > doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the testers:
> > > >
> > > > BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 "
> > > >
> > > > BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"
> > > >
> > > >    ------ more stuff -------
> > > >
> > > > BBLOCATION="poller1"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
> > > > moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is the main display:
> > > >
> > > > BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"
> > > >
> > > > BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"
> > > >
> > > > BBDISPLAYS=""
> > > >
> > > >    ------ more stuff -------
> > > >
> > > > BBLOCATION="display"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts
> > > > poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may
> > > > not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt
> > > > to include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might
> > > > go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS
> > > > just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status
> > > > message.  Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on
> > > > any firewalls.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it
> > > > helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Tod Hansmann*
> > > >
> > > > Network Engineer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <http://www.directpointe.com/>
> > > >  ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > > > *Sent: *Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
> > > > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > > > *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
> > > > being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
> > > > second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
> > > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:
> > > >
> > > > page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
> > > > group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
> > > > 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn
> > > >
> > > > group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
> > > > 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn
> > > >
> > > > Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible
> > > > only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the
> > > > customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)
> > > >
> > > > I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and
> > > > changed it as such:
> > > >
> > > > BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
> > > > BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
> > > >
> > > > I have also tried it without quotes
> > > >
> > > > When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages,
> > > > they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to
> > > >
> > > > BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
> > > > BBDISPLAYS=""
> > > >
> > > > It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one
> > > > is display blank (obviously =)
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Josh Luthman
> > > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > > Suite 1337
> > > > Troy, OH 45373
> > > >
> > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
> > > > poorly.
> > > > --- Henry Spencer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Josh Luthman
> > > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > > Suite 1337
> > > > Troy, OH 45373
> > > >
> > > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
> > > > poorly.
> > > > --- Henry Spencer
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Josh Luthman
> > > Office: 937-552-2340
> > > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > > 1100 Wayne St
> > > Suite 1337
> > > Troy, OH 45373
> > >
> > > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> > > --- Henry Spencer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> > --- Henry Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>

-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
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