Re: [hobbit] Future of Hobbit - Getting added to distro repos

[Charles Jones <jonescr (at) cisco.com>]

Henrik Stoerner wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 01:18:56PM -0700, Charles Jones wrote:
>   
> > I am going to attempt to drive getting Hobbit added to the Centos Plus 
> > repository, but first we need to figure out a few things:
> >
> > 1. Who will create and maintain the RPMs
> >    I'd rather someone with experience creating and maintaining distribution 
> > packages do this, but if all else fails I will volunteer.
> >     
>
> One reason why I hesitate to contact the various distributions is that I
> don't know what their normal practice is for package maintainers. Some
> - like Red Hat - have their own team, others depend on volunteers. And
> some just pick up one of their distribution brethren.
>   
Same problem here. Apparently though I am told that one of the persons 
involved in managing CentOS Plus is a member of our local LUG. I intend 
to get some information from him and perhaps his help on getting the 
packages we need included.
>   
> >   * librrdtool is not provided in the RHEL or CentOS/CentOS Plus repository 
> > (so even if you had a Hobbit RPM, you would have to go and get 3 rrdtool 
> > packages (rrdtool, rrdtool-devel, and perl-rrdtool) from the DAG 
> > repository.  
> >     
>
> Major issue. rrdtool is used by a lot of software packages.
>   
Agreed. It is available via third party repos, but that creates extra 
steps to successfully install Hobbit. If they will accept Hobbit perhaps 
they will accept rrdtool as well.
>   
> > 3. Figuring out what would be the most common/preferred/accepted 
> > installation dirs for Hobbit. Last week I installed the FC5 rpm, and it 
> > installed to /etc/hobbit, whereas the tarball by default installs to a 
> > subdirectory of /home. Some people like system tools to be in a "system" 
> > directory, while others like being able to install to a user space 
> > controlled location.
> >     
>
> There is actually a standard for this: The Linux Filesystem Hierarchy
> Standard (FHS). The packaging scripts that come with Hobbit tries to 
> follow it.
>
> One of the things that FHS/LSB dictates is that you do not EVER install
> software in /home or /usr/local . Architecture dependant binaries go in
> /usr, configuration files in /etc, logs in /var/log, data files in /var
> and so on. Wikipedia has a brief overview of this in
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
>   
Hmm everytime I have installed Hobbit from source, it asks what user 
Hobbit will run as, and then defaults to installing in /home/user.
Here is the basic dir layout you get from FC5 rpm install:
/etc/hobbit/bb-hosts
/etc/hobbit/web
/usr/bin/bb
/usr/lib/hobbit/cgi-bin
/usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc
/usr/lib/hobbit/server/bin/bb
/var/lib/hobbit/www
/var/log/hobbit

-Charles