[Xymon] Monitoring multiple values

Thu Aug 21 17:06:42 CEST 2014

Right on target!  Just before I sent that last response, I figured out
Xymon wouldn't let me use the N-300, etc. notations and decided to try it
via Rrdtool directly, so at least I was thinking along the right lines!
 Only three problems...

1) Minor problem - just an fyi, but trying to update a non-existent rrd
fails, so you have to add a bit more code to create.one first...no big
deal, but brings me to....

2.) If I want to eventually show all 5 figures, plus an average, min, max,
and last, how do I...
     a.) define the rrd?  I have:
DS:time:gauge:600:U:U
RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:1200
RRA:MIN:0.5:24:2400
RRA:MAX:0.5:24:2400
RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:2400
    b.) define the graph? I have:
[tvalues]
  TITLE Time Values
  YAXIS Time (m/s)
  DEF:t1=time.rrd:t1:AVERAGE
  DEF:t2=time.rrd:t2:AVERAGE
  DEF:t3=time.rrd:t3:AVERAGE
  DEF:t4=time.rrd:t4:AVERAGE
  DEF:t5=time.rrd:t5:AVERAGE
  LINE2:
  GPRINT:t1:%6.11f%s (cur)
  GPRINT:t2::\: %6.11f%s (cur)
  GPRINT:t3::\: %6.11f%s (cur)
  GPRINT:t4::\: %6.11f%s (cur)
  GPRINT:t5::\: %6.11f%s (cur)
  GPRINT:t6: \: %6.11f%s (max)
  GPRINT:t6: \: %6.11f%s (min)
  GPRINT:t6: \: %6.11f%s (avg)
* Note:  Assuming that defining the RRAs was correct, I really want the RRA
values for t6

3.) lastly, I set up the client-side script to collect the data via a
clientlaunch.cfg task, the clientlaunch xymond_rrd status then runs my
script to create the rrds (via the extra-script/extra-tests), so do I need
extra-script/extra-tests on the xymond_rrd data line?

Currently, both the rrds and the graph are being created, but empty.

Thanks for your suggestions!

Any and all help appreciated,

David

On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Ralph Mitchell <ralphmitchell at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Now that I've had a chance to read the man page, I see I wasn't
> remembering it properly.  I thought the last bit:
>
>         # The data
>         echo "$TEMP:$WIND:$HMTY:$RAIN"
>
> included the timestamp for the RRD insert.  So, here's another approach
> that may work.  Instead of echoing out the data, it could be directly
> written to the rrd, like this:
>
>         RRD=/home/xymon/data/rrd/<hostname>/thing.rrd
>
>         TIME=`date +%s`
>         MINUS1=`expr $TIME - 60`
>         MINUS2=`expr $MINUS1 - 60`
>         MINUS3=`expr $MINUS2 - 60`
>         MINUS4=`expr $MINUS3 - 60`
>
>         rrdtool update $RRD $MINUS4:$DATA4
>         rrdtool update $RRD $MINUS3:$DATA3
>         rrdtool update $RRD $MINUS2:$DATA2
>         rrdtool update $RRD $MINUS1:$DATA1
>         rrdtool update $RRD $TIME:$DATA0
>
>
> You would need to break out the 5 data points from the original message as
> DATA0 through DATA4.  As long as you don't echo out the data values, I
> *think* xymond_rrd won't update the rrd for itself.  Even it it does enter
> a NaN value, you've just fired off 5 real data points, which ought to be
> more significant that the NaN.  By updating the Xymon rrd for the server,
> you still get the graphs in the trends column, with multiple time spreads,
> zooming, etc.
>
> I hope that makes sense.  I don't have a handy test server to try it out
> on.
>
> Another possibility, if you (or someone nearby) are handy with C.  The
> xymond_sample.c program is included in the Xymon source.  It demonstrates
> how to hook into the message flow and process incoming data.  It ought to
> be possible to achieve the above rrd updates by receiving the message and
> dropping the data points back into the message stream at 60 second
> intervals.  Maybe.  You *really* need a spare test server to try that
> out...  :-)
>
> Ralph Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 11:22 AM, David Welker <dewelker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This sounded like a great idea, so I got the status showing up via the
>> extra-scripts option, but the info on the data message is a little vague.
>>  According to the example, I just echo the DS statements, then the dataset
>> name on a line by itself, followed by the data for one dataset on a line by
>> itself, which doesn't seem to do anything in the way of creating any of the
>> multiple rrds I need, nor does it address the time consideration for
>> multple values (I need to insert 5 values a minute apart  from 5 mins.
>> before putting them into the rrd - I know this can be done with the rrdtool
>> update command, but can it be done here somehow?)  Anybody have an example
>> of a multi-dataset case being run via the extra-scripts option of the
>> xymond_rrd they'd be willing to share?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> David
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Ralph Mitchell <ralphmitchell at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> You could do that server-side.  Look at the man page for xymond_rrd. The
>>> --extra-script option allows you to pipe incoming data through a script to
>>> process. You could take the report time and subtract 1 min, 2 min, etc,
>>> then emit rrd updates as required.  The client would still send all 5
>>> values at the same time, but they'd be recorded as if received over the
>>> preceding 5 minute block.
>>>
>>> Ralph Mitchell
>>> On Aug 15, 2014 9:55 AM, "David Welker" <dewelker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been looking, but haven't seen anything in the documentation, on
>>>> the website, or in the mailing list that addresses this:
>>>>
>>>> I need to monitor 5 values that are received all at the same time.  I'd
>>>> like to insert the values at one minute intervals getting a consolidated
>>>> data point (CDP) every 5 minutes that I can graph.
>>>>
>>>> For example, I ping a host via client script, 5 times, returning all of
>>>> the data at one time.  I want to put all 5 values in the database (rrd),
>>>> but spaced apart every minute so I get a decent CDP. I could probably do
>>>> this if this was on the server (could I?), but the script HAS to be on the
>>>> client in this case.  Is this even doable?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, in advance, for any suggestions!
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
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