[hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes

[Tod Hansmann]

We use SSL exclusively with ours and it maintains its position.  I'm
thinking this would be in your apache configs somewhere.  Have you asked
an Apache list about this?  

Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Wilson [mailto:swilson at uchicago.edu] 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:54 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes


Yup, it seems to be a fundamental property of how Firefox handles 
refreshes.  If you refresh a SSL page, it bounces to the top.  A non-SSL

page stays where it is.

I've tried it with other web pages, and they all function that way.


Scott Wilson                    Lead System Administrator
swilson at uchicago.edu            NSIT - DCS - SeaSol

On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:

> So you're telling us that the only variable you changed was SSL and it
> worked perfectly?
>
> Very odd...
>
> On 10/26/07, Scott Wilson <swilson at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I found the answer.  It's pretty simple really...
>>
>> I was using SSL with my hobbit server.  With SSL'ed web pages,
refreshes
>> force you back to the top of the page.  NonSSL'ed web pages (which I
had
>> totally disabled) work fine.
>>
>> Now I just need to hack up the header files so the secure areas point
to
>> SSL even when I'm looking at the nonSSL pages.  But as I already ran
into
>> the header files while debugging this, that should be trivial.
>>
>> Thanks for the help!
>>
>>
>> Scott Wilson                    Lead System Administrator
>> swilson at uchicago.edu            NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
>>
>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>> I am using this for an Apache server:
>>>
>>> Server version: Apache/2.2.3
>>> Server built:   Jun 26 2007 19:26:32
>>>
>>> Latest and greatest package from the default repo's.  Using CentOS 5
>> (which
>>> is RHEL based).
>>>
>>> I honestly have no idea how the page stays position.  It has to do
>> something
>>> along the lines of cache, but that is a client side thing so...my
ideas
>> stop
>>> here =(
>>>
>>> Please let us know what you come up with.  I know I would like to
know
>> the
>>> resolution to this.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> On 10/26/07, Scott Wilson <swilson at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brilliant thought....
>>>>
>>>> The demo does maintain position exactly as I want.  So it
definitely
>> isn't
>>>> hobbit in general.  My best guess now is it somehow lies in my
Apache.
>>>> That's just RedHat's stock Apache 2.0.52, but it may be related to
a
>>>> module (I shutoff the mods I wasn't using).... at least I have
>> something
>>>> to poke at now....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Scott Wilson                    Lead System Administrator
>>>> swilson at uchicago.edu            NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Troubleshooting technique!
>>>>>
>>>>> Use the Hobbitmon demo on the project page.  This was the only
page
>> long
>>>>> enough (for me - 1680x1050 resolution) for me to scroll down and
>>>> maintain my
>>>>> position.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/services/services.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this maintain position for you, Scott?
>>>>>
>>>>> My client: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.8.1.8)
>>>>> Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/26/07, Hobbit User <hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, October 26, 2007 11:48, Scott Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> What is the behavior for others?  Do others not get forced to
the
>> top
>>>>>> upon
>>>>>>> refresh.  (Automatic or manual has the same behavior.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Firefox 1.5.0.12 on Centos EL5 maintains position on refresh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Help-->About Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:
>>>> 1.8.0.12)
>>>>>> Gecko/20070719 CentOS/1.5.0.12-3.el5.centos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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