[hobbit] Input needed from all of you.

Mon Jul 5 16:56:01 CEST 2010

I'd suggest you develop a standard XML format for the status reports.

At that point, developing new frontends for it can be decoupled from the main codebase, with whatever preprocessing you require, without it possibly breaking the rest of the code.

1280x800 on my laptop
1280x270(or so) x3 on the monitoring screen
854x480 on my Milestone.

Steve Anderson

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Robert [mailto:Robert.Taylor at hendrickauto.com]
Sent: 05 July 2010 3:44 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Input needed from all of you.

In my opinion, the only problems with the current interface are:

1.  it's difficult to customize to the taste of the user.  Aside from things like header or footer changes, you've got to change the source code, re-compile and deploy to see a change.  Hence the reason that I went through everything to add CSS capabilities so I didn't need to recompile everything.

2.  The interface is simply a little dated.  Most of this goes back to the 90's with Big Brother.  That's not to say that being thin and fast is a bad thing, but everything needs a makeover now and then to incorporate items that simply didn't exist at the inception.  Even Volkswagen change the Beetle which was neither thin nor fast.

3.  Although PURELY cosmetic, the current interface doesn't always portray the most "professional" look to those that might not understand what they are looking for, but expect and IT department to use professional tools.  This doesn't have to be a 100K application, but it's probably time that the animated smiley faces go away or at least give the user the option of it.

Again, these are the three fundamental reasons that we changed our UI.  It's still thin and loads very fast, but when someone looks at it, their first impression isn't open source.

I'd love the app to be PHP based instead of HTML so that it could do a little more processing of what was/is being displayed, but that's another discussion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:33 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Input needed from all of you.

Excellent point, which brings me to ask a very good question:

What doesn't work about the current interface?

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:28 AM,  <wshart at hormel.com> wrote:
> I haven't been following this thread real closely, however I want to
> throw up a bit of a warning.
>
> It's all fine and dandy to develop a wiz-bang page that looks great on
> your
> 15000x240000 screens, but remember day-to-day usage is not necessarily
> the critical time when you will be using the product.  I see a lot of
> use from people who don't normally leverage it during disaster times.
> This is not a good time to have to worry about the screen resolution.  Many times a 15"
> CRT is all that is sitting around and what we are forced to use short
> term because it's all we can find.  If the page is formatted for a
> monster screen it's going to be very difficult to get a good picture
> of where we actually stand.
>
> It could just be the situations I've been in where this comes into
> play and no one else ever has to worry about it, but I have seen it
> happen a number of times, so my vote is to stick with the simple and
> fast rendering pages that anything can view.  Or possibly offer up an
> option so both sets of pages are still available.
>
> Bill Hart
>
>
>
>
> From:   "Neil Franken" <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za>
> To:     <hobbit at hswn.dk>
> Date:   07/05/2010 09:16 AM
> Subject:        RE: [hobbit] Input needed from all of you.
>
>
>
> Cool Guys.
>
> From what I can see we will need a fluid layout for PC's. We would
> need some other layouts for mobile devices. Thanks for the information.
>
> Regards
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Arlofski [mailto:waa-hobbitml at revpol.com]
> Sent: 05 July 2010 04:00 PM
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Input needed from all of you.
>
> On 07/05/10 05:09, Neil Franken wrote:
>> Hi All
>>
>> As we are in a planning stage I need YOUR help. One of the things we
>> have on our hit list is the web interface(might be for a later
> release).
>> Here is how you can help. Send me the resolutions of the screen you
> most
>> commonly use to view your Xymon pages. This information will help
>> greatly with the development going further.
>>
>> Regards
>> Neil
>
> Hi Neil... I see a lot of people listing high resolutions -  like my
> two screens @ 1680x1050 each...
>
> But let's not forget about my Nokia N900 @ 800x480 and other mobile
> devices when considering redesigns. Some of my clients VPN into their
> networks and use their iPhone to check their Xymon status.
>
> Thanks!  :)
>
> --
> Bill Arlofski
> Reverse Polarity, LLC
> http://www.revpol.com/
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