[hobbit] Questions about migrating from BB
Ryan Novosielski
novosirj at umdnj.edu
Thu Sep 17 20:08:59 CEST 2009
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I had the wrong address in BBDISP. I suppose we will see what happens
now. Thanks for the pointer!
Josh Luthman wrote:
> If you want the clients to send their data to the server you need to
> specify (for Hobbit clients)
>
> BBDISP="74.218.88.184" # IP address of the Hobbit server
> BBDISPLAYS="" # IP of multiple Hobbit servers. BBDISP
> must be "0.0.0.0".
>
> /home/hobbitman/client/etc/hobbitclient.cfg
>
> For bbclients (I have no experience with them myself) you simply switch
> from the old to the new address.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> improbable, must be the truth."
> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
>
> Yeah, I took a look at that before writing. There's nothing missing that
> I can see that refers to anything like that. Only think I can think of
> is that the client piece may not be using the same hostname as my
> machine. I don't know what xymon does in cases where one is using FQDN
> and one isn't. My bb-hosts line is:
>
> 130.219.34.102 xymon.umdnj.edu <http://xymon.umdnj.edu> # BBDISPLAY
> bbd ssh !telnet !ftp
>
> So I'm only missing some extraneous stuff, if I compare it to their
> line. I don't think the CLIENT piece is strictly required. I guess I
> will re-read the man page for bb-hosts.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Compare the first host voodoo.hswn.dk <http://voodoo.hswn.dk>
> <http://voodoo.hswn.dk>:
>> http://xymon.com/hobbit/servers/servers.html
>
>> With it's bb-host here:
>> http://xymon.com/hobbit-cgi/viewconf.sh
>
>> I think that answers your question. Let me know if otherwise.
>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>
>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
>> improbable, must be the truth."
>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ryan Novosielski
> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>> wrote:
>
>> One, possibly last, question:
>
>> In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
>> and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to
> lose
>> the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
>> figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
>> believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
>> point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?
>
>> Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
>> disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
>> "BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
>> appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The
> BBNET
>> machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
>> clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.
>
>> Thanks for any help!
>
>> Ryan Novosielski wrote:
>>> Apparently not. :-\
>
>>> Checking for RRDtool ...
>>> RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED
>> for hobbitd
>>> RRDtool can be found at
>> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/
> <http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
>> <http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
>>> If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and
>> "--rrdlib DIR"
>>> options to configure to specify where they are.
>
>>> I guess no big deal.
>
>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> From memory..few years of dust on that...
>
>>>> After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it
>> can't
>>>> be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would
>> skip over
>>>> the RRDtool parts. Also, like you said, ./configure.server
>> --help may
>>>> answer that better.
>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>
>>>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains,
> however
>>>> improbable, must be the truth."
>>>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
>
>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski
>> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>
>>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>>> wrote:
>
>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>>>> display,
>>>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network
> testing? It
>>>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>>>> I can
>>>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>>>> When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only
>> have to
>>>>> install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW
>> pages). If
>>>>> you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
>>>> configure
>>>>> just say you don't have rrdtool. The bbproxy/net machines have no
>>>> need
>>>>> for rrdtool. Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
>>>> help in
>>>>> several cases.
>>>> Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
>>>> these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
>>>> display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a
>> way to
>>>> say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I
>> suppose,
>>>> but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often
>> present
>>>> in other software.
>
>>>>> I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to
> read
>>>>> through the archives. From my understanding, it is by host not
>>>> test as
>>>>> well.
>>>> Thanks, I'll hunt around.
>
>>>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
>>>> in BB? I
>>>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>>>> (Escalation is
>>>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>>>> from
>>>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
>>>>> Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
>>>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
>>>> Thanks.
>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
>>>> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>
>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>>
>>>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>
>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>>> I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
>>>> have
>>>>> currently installed it and am testing it out.
>>>>> My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
>>>>> machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a
>> firewall and
>>>>> are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
>>>>> I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects
>> of it
>>>>> that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
>>>>> for them:
>>>>> First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
>>>> simple
>>>>> as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
>>>> this
>>>>> seems pretty easy.
>>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
>>>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
>>>> display,
>>>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network
> testing? It
>>>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
>>>> I can
>>>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
>>>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
>>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
>>>> BB? I
>>>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
>>>> (Escalation is
>>>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
>>>> from
>>>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
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