[hobbit] Questions about migrating from BB

Thu Sep 17 19:00:19 CEST 2009

If you want the clients to send their data to the server you need to specify
(for Hobbit clients)

BBDISP="74.218.88.184"             # IP address of the Hobbit server
BBDISPLAYS=""                   # IP of multiple Hobbit servers. BBDISP must
be "0.0.0.0".

/home/hobbitman/client/etc/hobbitclient.cfg

For bbclients (I have no experience with them myself) you simply switch from
the old to the new address.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth."
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu>wrote:

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> Yeah, I took a look at that before writing. There's nothing missing that
> I can see that refers to anything like that. Only think I can think of
> is that the client piece may not be using the same hostname as my
> machine. I don't know what xymon does in cases where one is using FQDN
> and one isn't. My bb-hosts line is:
>
> 130.219.34.102  xymon.umdnj.edu # BBDISPLAY bbd ssh !telnet !ftp
>
> So I'm only missing some extraneous stuff, if I compare it to their
> line. I don't think the CLIENT piece is strictly required. I guess I
> will re-read the man page for bb-hosts.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Compare the first host voodoo.hswn.dk <http://voodoo.hswn.dk>:
> > http://xymon.com/hobbit/servers/servers.html
> >
> > With it's bb-host here:
> > http://xymon.com/hobbit-cgi/viewconf.sh
> >
> > I think that answers your question.  Let me know if otherwise.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> > improbable, must be the truth."
> > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu
> > <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > One, possibly last, question:
> >
> > In the process of migrating my bb-hosts file from BigBrother to xymon
> > and duplicating my current BB setup, it appears as if I managed to lose
> > the tests for bbgen, bbtest, hobbitd... maybe another as well. I can't
> > figure out what it is that causes these tests to show up, as I do not
> > believe they were spelled out in the default bb-hosts file. Can anyone
> > point me to either some good docs on that or an answer?
> >
> > Currently, on the "BBDISPLAY" machine I have bbnet and bbretest
> > disabled. However, stats for these processes do not show up on the
> > "BBNET" machines either (sorry to use BB terminology but it does not
> > appear that xymon has any term to make the description easy). The BBNET
> > machines have hobbitd, bbhistory, bbpage, rrdstatus, rrddata,
> > clientdata, and bbdisplay disabled.
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> >> Apparently not. :-\
> >
> >> Checking for RRDtool ...
> >> RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED
> > for hobbitd
> >> RRDtool can be found at
> > http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/<http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
> > <http://people.ee.ethz.ch/%7Eoetiker/webtools/rrdtool/>
> >> If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and
> > "--rrdlib DIR"
> >> options to configure to specify where they are.
> >
> >> I guess no big deal.
> >
> >> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>> From memory..few years of dust on that...
> >
> >>> After you do a ./configure.server it will ask about RRDtool if it
> > can't
> >>> be found - I would imagine if you just leave it blank it would
> > skip over
> >>> the RRDtool parts.  Also, like you said, ./configure.server
> > --help may
> >>> answer that better.
> >
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >>> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
> >>> improbable, must be the truth."
> >>> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
> >
> >
> >>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Ryan Novosielski
> > <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> >>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>> wrote:
> >
> >>> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
> >>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
> >>> display,
> >>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
> >>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
> >>> I can
> >>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
> >>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
> >>>> When you say "machines" you're saying it plural - you'll only
> > have to
> >>>> install it on the bbdisplay (what server you query for WWW
> > pages).  If
> >>>> you don't want rrdtool you won't have graphs - when you do the
> >>> configure
> >>>> just say you don't have rrdtool.  The bbproxy/net machines have no
> >>> need
> >>>> for rrdtool.  Graphs aren't crucial but they can most certainly
> >>> help in
> >>>> several cases.
> >>> Yes, I have two network test machines that do not run the display --
> >>> these were that I was talking about. I already have rrdtool on the
> >>> display machine and the graphs work. I did not know there was a
> > way to
> >>> say that I don't have rrdtool. I'll look through configure, I
> > suppose,
> >>> but I didn't see anything like "--without-rrdtool" as is often
> > present
> >>> in other software.
> >
> >>>> I know some people have issues using NET: but you might want to read
> >>>> through the archives.  From my understanding, it is by host not
> >>> test as
> >>>> well.
> >>> Thanks, I'll hunt around.
> >
> >>>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is
> >>> in BB? I
> >>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
> >>> (Escalation is
> >>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
> >>> from
> >>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
> >>>> Maybe look at the critical list of hosts -
> >>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2007/03/msg00315.html
> >>> Thanks.
> >
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Ryan Novosielski
> >>> <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> > <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>
> >>>> <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>
> > <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>>>> wrote:
> >>>> Good afternoon,
> >>>> I am new to this list and probably will be new to xymon shortly. I
> >>> have
> >>>> currently installed it and am testing it out.
> >>>> My current BB system consists of a BBDISPLAY machine, and two BBNET
> >>>> machines. The two BBNET machines are on either sides of a
> > firewall and
> >>>> are housed on two different Solaris 10 zones.
> >>>> I /think/ I know how to set this up, but there are some aspects
> > of it
> >>>> that look like they might be irritating if there's no good answer
> >>>> for them:
> >>>> First off, my BBDISPLAY does no network monitoring. This looks as
> >>> simple
> >>>> as setting DISABLE on the appropriate part of hobbitlaunch.cfg, so
> >>> this
> >>>> seems pretty easy.
> >>>> Next, my network machines. I don't really want to have to install
> >>>> RRDTool on it. Is that really necessary? Isn't it only used for
> >>> display,
> >>>> or is it also needed by a machine that only does network testing? It
> >>>> looks like then as far as splitting up which tests run from where,
> >>> I can
> >>>> use BBLOCATION and NET:$BBLOCATION, but it appears as if this is by
> >>>> host, not by test. Any recommendations?
> >>>> Lastly, is there any concept of escalation in xymon as there is in
> >>> BB? I
> >>>> wouldn't necessarily miss it, but I do currently use it.
> >>> (Escalation is
> >>>> that no one can acknowledge a page in such a way that will keep it
> >>> from
> >>>> reaching the escalated party, except that person).
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