[hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes

[Haertig, David F (Dave)]

I'm guessing that this has to do with cached vs. non-cached content, or
broweser/proxy mishandling of said content.  Many things come into play.
If you're not running Hobbit on the same webserver as BB, then there
could be Apache config differences.  Are you going through a proxy?
Those might cache too.  You browser caches as well.  Different browsers
do it differently.  Are you looking at an .html page (static, may be
cached) or a CGI page (shouldn't be cached, but I've seen proxies do it
non-the-less).  Even Hobbit itself could come into play (theoretically,
but I haven't looked at the source).  Hobbit might be sending out
different metadata, pragmas, etc. in the HTML it generates that is
causing your refresh differences from the way BB generated the HTML.

You refresh is coming from the following which you'll find in Hobbit
HTML on some pages (not all):

<META HTTP-EQUIV="REFRESH" CONTENT="60">

I do not know if you can reconfigure Hobbit to omit that.  Or, you can
use something like Proxomitron (a local proxy) to dynamically remove the
meta-refreshes from the source as your browser downloads it.  But theses
methods would take out all your refreshes - even when you might want
them.

I used to have much more trouble with BB jumping around on refreshes
than I have with Hobbit now.  But I have so many different things in my
setup that I couldn't even compare (different browser, different local
OS, different server OS, different version of Apache - you name it!)

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Wilson [mailto:swilson at uchicago.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:09 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes


Problem is a bit of a strong word, but it is annoying.


I'm in the process of switching from and old Big Brother server to a
Hobbit server.  All in all, Hobbit is far and away better.  But there is
one nagging difference.

When I scroll down in a web page on my Big Brother server, and then
reload (either the auto reload, or manually reloading) my web browser
stays at the same position.  With Hobbit, all reloads start me back up
on the top of the page.

This is particularly annoying if I scroll down and I'm looking at a
specific host.  When the automatic reload happens, I'm bumped up to the
top and have to scroll down again.


I've tried playing around with the header and removing things that were
different from my Big Brother headers, and it didn't matter.  I also
doublechecked that there was nothing odd in my Apache config... and I
couldn't find anything.

Does anyone have any ideas what is up with this?  Or is it simply
something I'll have to live with to use the otherwise superior Hobbit?
I've tried searching both this archive and Google, and I haven't come up
with anything.

Thanks!

Scott Wilson                    Lead System Administrator
swilson at uchicago.edu            NSIT - DCS - SeaSol

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