[hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Mon Nov 5 21:13:19 CET 2007

Ah.  You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer
clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as
in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer
location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single
dot that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked
to the Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have to
keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote
locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

________________________________

	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
	To: hobbit at hswn.dk
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

	I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't
going to change and the hosts are not identical.

	Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main
Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW
servers and things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The
first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little world and
ping the access points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to
duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on
our company Hobbit. 

	The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of
their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently,
but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

	Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =( 

	Josh

	On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote: 

		We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime
changes are made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

		Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not
using Net:foo

		Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?
The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know
about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status
messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws
here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log? 

		Tod Hansmann

		Network Engineer

		 <http://www.directpointe.com/>   

________________________________

		From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
		Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
		To: hobbit at hswn.dk
		Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

		Tod,

		I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages
have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is
"connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

		Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know
about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it
doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way of
getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays? 

		Josh

		On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com>
wrote:

		So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display
their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main
display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar
to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in
context.

		This is the testers:

		BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

		BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1>
ip.of.main.display"

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="poller1"

		The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point
out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both
configs here.

		This is the main display:

		BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

		BBDISPLAYS=""

		   ------ more stuff -------

		BBLOCATION="display"

		Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all
the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2
polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get
working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your original config is
the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm
pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in
that list when it has a status message.  Also note that port 1984 will
have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

		Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some
of it helps.

		Tod Hansmann

		Network Engineer

		 <http://www.directpointe.com/>   

________________________________

		From: Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]

		Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
		To: hobbit at hswn.dk
		Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

		What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.
The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and
things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings
APs, Switches, etc.

		I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

		page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
		group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
		1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 

		group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
		2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 

		Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs,
accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those
of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

		I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

		BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0> "
		BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

		I have also tried it without quotes

		When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the
www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it to 

		BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single
hobbit/bbd server
		BBDISPLAYS=""

		It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but
the main one is display blank (obviously =)

		Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in
advance!

		Josh

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	Direct: 937-552-2343
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	Troy, OH 45373

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