[Xymon] localmode, got over-size message, truncating

Jeremy Laidman jeremy at laidman.org
Thu Mar 10 23:56:17 CET 2022


Honestly, I can't work out how this happened. A review of the code - in as
much as I can understand it, not being a C programmer - shows that there's
only one place the MAXMSG_CLIENT parameter is used, and that's in xymond.
In particular, it's not used in the xymon client (which is the only process
that logs to xymonclient.log).

I can understand how it could have come about that xymond was loaded using
xymonclient.cfg for its environment, thus applying the smaller size limit
to incoming messages. But if this were the case, I can't work out how you
would have seen MAXMSG_CLIENT=2048 in the running xymond process's
environment.

So, I'm glad you worked out a solution. But I don't think we quite
understand the cause.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 22:41, Jeremy Laidman <jeremy at laidman.org> wrote:

> Great work Christoph.
>
> Sorry, it appears that I led you down the wrong path, asserting that it
> was a server-only setting in xymond. It would appear to be a client-side
> setting. This seems to be undocumented in the man page for xymonclient.cfg.
>
> J
>
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 at 21:18, Christoph Zechner <zechner at vrvis.at> wrote:
>
>> I solved it!
>>
>> I had to add and set "MAXMSG_CLIENT=1024" in /etc/xymon/xymonclient.cfg,
>> restarted xymon-client and all the errors were gone.
>>
>> Thanks again for your help!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Christoph
>>
>>
>> On 09/03/2022 06:42, Christoph Zechner wrote:
>> > On 09/03/2022 00:04, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 18:52, Christoph Zechner <zechner at vrvis.at
>> >> <mailto:zechner at vrvis.at>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>     It seems I celebrated prematurely, the errors are back in exactly
>> the
>> >>     same way :-/
>> >>
>> >>     2022-03-08 08:47:19.321457 Got over-size message, truncating at
>> >> 528383
>> >>     bytes (max: 524288)
>> >>     2022-03-08 08:47:19.339786 Dropping (more) garbled data
>> >>
>> >>     I don't understand where this limit 05 512 comes from, everything
>> on
>> >>     the
>> >>     server checks out (2048 before, tried 4096 as well, no change).
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I'm at a loss. If the xymond process is proven to have this set at
>> >> 2048, then I see no reason why it would give that error message with
>> >> that number.
>> >>
>> >> Unless it's referring to another message type and hence a different
>> >> maximum setting? Perhaps take a look at xymond's environment again,
>> >> but search for all MAXMSG_ variables. See which one is set to 512, and
>> >> that might be the culprit. The defaults for these max values are all
>> >> different, with only two of them defaulting to 512: MAXMSG_CLIENT,
>> >> MAXMSG_CLICHG (reference: lib/xymond_buffer.c). But it's possible one
>> >> of them has been set to 512.
>> >
>> > Thanks, I tried that, but unfortunately, this did not help, since all
>> > the values were set correctly, according to my config.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> The only other thing I can think of is that you have two copies of
>> >> xymond running, somehow with different values of MAXMSG_CLIENT. But I
>> >> can't think how this could come about. And you've already killed off
>> >> any rogue processes.
>> >
>> > Right, that's not it either. :-/
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Maybe run xymond in debug mode for one round of updates, until you get
>> >> the "Got over-size message" and review the debug logs. This might
>> >> provide enough additional detail to find out what's going on.
>> >>
>> >> Another approach to solve the problem (truncated client data message)
>> >> is to modify the client script (eg xymonclient-linux.sh) to truncate
>> >> the ps command output, so that the total message size is less, and
>> >> hopefully fits within the max message size. This will mean that PROC
>> >> checks might not work anymore (which is likely the case now). But the
>> >> current state is that monitoring of the sections that come after [ps]
>> >> are likely broken now. On Linux this is notably the [top] and [vmstat]
>> >> sections of the client data message, that are used for the "cpu"
>> >> status and several metrics for graphing. Maybe something like adding
>> >> "head -1000" will cut it down to a reasonable size:
>> >>
>> >> echo "[ps]"
>> >> ps -Aww -o pid,ppid,user,start,state,pri,pcpu,time,pmem,rsz,vsz,cmd |
>> >> head -1000
>> >
>> > That's actually a gread idea and I modified the [ports] section,
>> because
>> > I know this is the culprit (running a proxy there and all the active
>> > client connections were too much for xymon to handle.
>> >
>> > I'm not interested in client connections anyway, I just want to monitor
>> > my running programs and ports on that server, so I replaced the original
>> >
>> > netstat -antuW 2>/dev/null
>> > netstat -antuT 2>/dev/null
>> >
>> > with
>> >
>> > netstat -tulpenW 2>/dev/null
>> >
>> > (adding your "| head 1000" suggestion did not work, because it cut off
>> > the list before it could reach the IPv6 interfaces and thus the ports
>> > check was always red).
>> >
>> > Now xymon works again, although this is just a workaround, because the
>> > underlying problem of where exactly my messages got truncated, is still
>> > to be found, but I can live with this solution.
>> >
>> > Anyway, I very much appreciate your time and efforts, thank you very
>> much!
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > Christoph
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Also, review the client data message before the [ps] section to see if
>> >> there's actually something else pushing it over the limit, and [ps]
>> >> just happens to be where the truncation happens.
>> >>
>> >> J
>> >>
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