[Xymon] Plan for XYMON and SNMP
Bruce Ferrell
bferrell at baywinds.org
Mon May 20 18:16:00 CEST 2019
I'd have to say xymon integration is FAR more stable and flexible than devmon... And I've put a LOT of time into understanding devmon configuration.
Devmon is a "dancing bear" (it's not how well it dances, it's that it dances at all).
That said, because SNMP is so... rich? Charting configuration is interesting to think about.
On 5/17/19 2:04 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> For me, yes.
>
>
> On Fri, 17 May 2019, 17:59 Japheth Cleaver, <cleaver at terabithia.org <mailto:cleaver at terabithia.org>> wrote:
>
> Other than documentation (obviously), would that be the primary feature
> set that helps makes this a reasonable thing to integrate in officially?
>
> -jc
>
> On 5/16/2019 11:08 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> > I just figured out there has to be a task... At first I wondered how
> > xymonnet launched xymon-snmpcollector, then I started running it by
> > hand and running tcpdump to see what was being polled
> >
> > What it looks like what we don't get is mib variable manipulation ala
> > devmon... calculated load percentages etc.
> >
> > Still I think a move in the right direction and it directly supports
> > snmp v3
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/16/19 10:45 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> >> Not sure what that will give you. The OIDs are extracted from the
> >> file snmpmibs.conf, and I expect you'll have to populate that with
> >> anything you want to monitor.
> >>
> >> One thing I forgot to mention is that you need to create a task to
> >> run the xymon-snmpcollect program every 5 minutes. I created a
> >> tasks.d/xymon-snmpcollect.cfg file containing the following:
> >>
> >> [snmpcollect]
> >> ENVFILE $XYMONHOME/etc/xymonserver.cfg
> >> CMD $XYMONHOME/ext/xymon-snmpcollect --debug
> >> LOGFILE $XYMONSERVERLOGS/xymon-snmpcollect.log
> >> INTERVAL 5m
> >>
> >> Obviously the --debug flag can be removed.
> >>
> >> On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 15:26, Bruce Ferrell <bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just thinking aloud... Since the build uses net-snmp, it should
> >> use the same mibs net-snmp uses... So xymon will know about my
> >> SmartUPS and poweredge.
> >>
> >> I'm gonna have to study the code some more
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5/16/19 10:08 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> >> > Right you are. DOSNMP is set to "yes" as a result of SNMP being
> >> set to 1 (and the Net-SNMP tools being found).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 14:42, Bruce Ferrell
> >> <bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On 5/16/19 9:10 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> >> > > On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 13:36, Bruce Ferrell
> >> <bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>>> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Yes, I did Jeremy. My apologies.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > No problem.
> >> > >
> >> > > I did figure out I have to export SNMP=1 then
> >> configure and rebuild
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Ah, I didn't know that. Or I forgot that.
> >> > >
> >> > > Just looking at the code now - are you sure this isn't
> >> "DOSNMP=1"?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The Makefile tests for if $SNMP=1... At least in 4.3.28
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > What is the tag in the hosts file (if any)?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Nothing. The hostnames are found by xymon-snmpcollect in
> >> the snmphosts.cfg. You still need the hosts to be in hosts.cfg, but
> >> not tags are required.
> >> >
> >> > > Jeremy
> >> >
> >> > Thanks again!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > On 5/16/19 6:41 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> >> > > > If you meant to say, "Hey Jeremy" then the answer
> >> is, that it's all stuff for Xymon.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, 17 May 2019 at 11:15, Bruce Ferrell
> >> <bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>>
> >> > <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>
> >> <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org <mailto:bferrell at baywinds.org>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hey Josh, I saw that before. Is that stuff
> >> that devmon looks at or stuff for xymon.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm not at all clear
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks in advance
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On 5/16/19 6:00 PM, Jeremy Laidman wrote:
> >> > > >> Xymon already has code for SNMP that works,
> >> but isn't documented. I have it working for me, but it required a
> >> fair bit or digging to find the right
> >> > configuration. I've
> >> > > >> posted on this previously; might help:
> >> https://lists.xymon.com/archive/2019-March/046191.html
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> J
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Thu, 16 May 2019 at 19:26, Bruno Manzoni
> >> <bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> > <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>
> >> > > <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Thanks you Josh,
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Yes I know about devmon (I put my own
> >> devmon version which is a try to be a consolidate version)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> In fact, I just would like to know if
> >> there was another SNMP development (but it seems not as you say it
> >> will be merged) inside Xymon . (I am thinking
> >> a way to
> >> > > integrate
> >> > > >> SNMP v3, but it do not uses the current
> >> SNMP_session perl lib as it is not supported within this lib)?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Regards
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Bruno Manzoni
> >> > > >> (Bonomani)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Le 14.05.2019 à 15:20, Josh Luthman a écrit :
> >> > > >>> You can just use Devmon these days.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> I've seen nothing to suggest the projects
> >> will be merged.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Josh Luthman
> >> > > >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> > > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> > > >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >> > > >>> Suite 1337
> >> > > >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 12:33 PM Bruno
> >> Manzoni <bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> > <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>
> >> > > <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>
> >> <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch <mailto:bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch>>>>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Hello,
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> Is there any plan to have SNMP
> >> include with a new version of xymon? If
> >> > > >>> yes, what is the current state?
> >> >
> >>
> >
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