[hobbit] Wanna show off.

david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au
Tue Jun 30 01:14:40 CEST 2009


I would agree entirely. Having managed an IT Operations section of around 
120 IT staff, I had the same issue with my CIO. Forget about the tool and 
go and spec the requirements (or help spec them). Then lay down the 
alternatives. One of the advantages of hobbit is that you can demo it at 
no cost and very little time. Manager's dont like to spend money if they 
dont have to, but at the same time are averse to risk so do not want to go 
down a path that may cost them money and time. I small demo of Hobbit (or 
if you already have it running ) may prove to be the clincher.

OTOH, if another tool provides the features that hobbit cant without 
extensive effort then hobbit may not be the answer. (I am now ducking 
behind my desk in order to avoid the flames).



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From:
Buchan Milne <bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net>
To:
hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
"Neil Franken" <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za>
Date:
29/06/2009 07:16 PM
Subject:
Re: [hobbit] Wanna show off.



On Monday 29 June 2009 08:32:00 Neil Franken wrote:

> Where can I find the Hobbit User list? Our company is being monitored by
> Xymon but we have a new manager here that suffers from MS mania.  He now
> wants to spend a couple of thousand dollars on a new monitoring system.
> I am not going to back down without a fight so if I can show him this
> list maybe he will realize the error of his ways.

>From a business perspective, there may not be an error in his ways.

Frankly, a business needs to ensure that their requirements are met in a 
cost 
effective manner.

So, I would start out from the standpoint that your monitoring tools may 
not 
necessarily satisfy the business requirements, and that you are happy to 
work 
with him to document the monitoring requirements. Once they are 
documented, 
show that you can satisfy all the monitoring requirements with a lower 
cost, 
and no businessman will decide against you.

Don't fight, cooperate to show that you take the business needs into 
account, 
and have actually satisfied them.

If there are any monitoring requirements you don't meet yet ... identify 
them 
and let's see if we can provide options, before you have to report.

I can however note that at least two ISPs in South Africa run Hobbit/Xymon 

(and Devmon). A recent sporting event in South Africa used Hobbit for 
monitoring components of the network ...

I can give you some more examples off-list.

Regards,
Buchan

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