[hobbit] grouping methods

Hubbard, Greg L greg.hubbard at eds.com
Mon Jun 16 20:36:46 CEST 2008

I have used this method with great success, but it is a pain in the
you-know-what to maintain.  It would be nice if this "router" tagging
could be made recursive so you only have to specify one upstream host
for each host, assuming that the upstream host is also in Hobbit.  As it
is today you have to specify the full path to each "leaf" and this can
get long.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:rsmrcina at wi.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 1:18 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] grouping methods

If this is a situation of routed networks, Hobbit can know about that
with directives in the bb-hosts file.  If it knows a host behind a
router is down, it will only notify for the router, not the hosts behind
the router.

Linder, Doug (SABIC Innovative Plastics, consultant) wrote:
> Sloan [mailto:joe at tmsusa.com] wrote:
>> We've not had a bb server go down in all the years we've been using 
>> it, but sometimes wan connectivity goes away due to circumstances 
>> beyond our control
> This is by far the biggest annoyance we have with all system 
> monitoring
> - when networks go down.  It's a problem with every monitoring tool 
> there is and I can't think of any way to solve it: the monitoring 
> system has no way of knowing whether a system is down because it 
> crashed or if it's down because the network went down.  All it knows 
> is that it can't talk to the system anymore and something is wrong, so

> it generates an alert.  When a whole network goes down, it can become 
> hundreds of simultaneous alerts.  And that's annoying enough when it's

> just email alerts.  When you use Hobbit to generate cases in your 
> trouble ticket system, that can be hundreds of new, useless cases to
manually close.
> We don't want to raise the amount of time a system has to be down 
> before Hobbit generates an alert, because we want to know as soon as
> But if we keep that number too low, then when the network has a brief 
> hiccup, we get hundreds of redundant cases.  This is especially a 
> problem with overseas networks on the WAN.
> I think the only possible solution would be for Hobbit to have some 
> kind of flood-detection routine built in, where it could tell how 
> rapidly it was sending alerts about connection problems for machines 
> all on the same network, and was smart enough to think "Whoa, I'm 
> about to send 100 connection alarms about systems on the same 
> network.... Instead of sending 100 of them, maybe I'll just send ONE 
> alert saying "You got a big problem here."
> Doug Linder
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