[hobbit] grouping methods

Josh Luthman josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
Mon Jun 16 20:27:25 CEST 2008

Yes - I have that setup with customers' routers and CPEs.

The real problem is when, for example, 3 servers in one data center in
New Mexico lose connectivity with us in Ohio.  Then I get 3 SMS
messages on my phone, followed by 3 more when it comes back up.

It would be very convenient to have 1 messages saying this, that and
another thing went down in the last 60s.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 2:17 PM, Rich Smrcina <rsmrcina at wi.rr.com> wrote:
> If this is a situation of routed networks, Hobbit can know about that with
> directives in the bb-hosts file.  If it knows a host behind a router is
> down, it will only notify for the router, not the hosts behind the router.
> Linder, Doug (SABIC Innovative Plastics, consultant) wrote:
>> Sloan [mailto:joe at tmsusa.com] wrote:
>>> We've not had a bb server go down in all the years we've been using it,
>>> but sometimes wan connectivity goes away due to circumstances beyond our
>>> control
>> This is by far the biggest annoyance we have with all system monitoring
>> - when networks go down.  It's a problem with every monitoring tool
>> there is and I can't think of any way to solve it: the monitoring system
>> has no way of knowing whether a system is down because it crashed or if
>> it's down because the network went down.  All it knows is that it can't
>> talk to the system anymore and something is wrong, so it generates an
>> alert.  When a whole network goes down, it can become hundreds of
>> simultaneous alerts.  And that's annoying enough when it's just email
>> alerts.  When you use Hobbit to generate cases in your trouble ticket
>> system, that can be hundreds of new, useless cases to manually close.
>> We don't want to raise the amount of time a system has to be down before
>> Hobbit generates an alert, because we want to know as soon as possible.
>> But if we keep that number too low, then when the network has a brief
>> hiccup, we get hundreds of redundant cases.  This is especially a
>> problem with overseas networks on the WAN.
>> I think the only possible solution would be for Hobbit to have some kind
>> of flood-detection routine built in, where it could tell how rapidly it
>> was sending alerts about connection problems for machines all on the
>> same network, and was smart enough to think "Whoa, I'm about to send 100
>> connection alarms about systems on the same network.... Instead of
>> sending 100 of them, maybe I'll just send ONE alert saying "You got a
>> big problem here."
>> Doug Linder
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