[hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Hubbard, Greg L greg.hubbard at eds.com
Mon Nov 5 21:44:08 CET 2007


look in the docs for "summary"


________________________________

	From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
	Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
	To: hobbit at hswn.dk
	Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
	
	
	Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for
whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.
	
	I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote
host.  The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or
hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this one server. 
	
	This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what
the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine
it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include
bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.
	
	Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?
	
	Josh
	
	
	
	
	On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < greg.hubbard at eds.com
<mailto:greg.hubbard at eds.com> > wrote: 

		Ah.  You have a couple of options.
		 
		a) configure each client (at a customer location) to
send to the local server as well as the main server.  This means that
your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main
server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer
location.
		 
		b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the
customer location send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a
single dot that shows the overall status of that customer.  The dot is
linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server.  This way you don't have
to keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote
locations.
		 
		And you can mix and match these methods.
		 
		GLH


________________________________

			From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
			Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
			To: hobbit at hswn.dk 
			
			Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration
			

			
			I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I
need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not identical.
			
			Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.
We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home
routers, WWW servers and things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's
LAN.  The first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little
world and ping the access points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck,
is to duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the
bbdisplay on our company Hobbit. 
			
			The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs
and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it
has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.
			
			Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own
situations =( 
			
			Josh
			
			
			On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote: 

				We just scp the hostlist from one to the
others anytime changes are made.  You could probably do this in a
cron-job as well.

				 

				Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You
shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

				 

				Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts
file from both?  The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it
doesn't know about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is
getting the status messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm
picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display
log? 

				 

				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 

				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>   

				
________________________________


				From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
				Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
				To: hobbit at hswn.dk
				Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration

				 

				Tod,
				
				I've configured it that way and neither
of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do
know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with
nmap).
				
				Any other ideas out there?  From what
little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra
step, it doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way
of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays? 
				
				Josh

				On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

				So, we have two servers doing tests, and
they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.
So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to
be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of
this info in context.

				 

				 

				This is the testers:

				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0> "

				BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1
<http://127.0.0.1>  ip.of.main.display"

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="poller1"

				 

				 

				The BBLOCATION is important to the
setup.  I'll point out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the
same in both configs here.

				 

				 

				This is the main display:

				BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

				BBDISPLAYS=""

				   ------ more stuff -------

				BBLOCATION="display"

				 

				 

				Now in the bb-hosts file, I have
Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all
the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're
trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your
original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and
no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it
to everything in that list when it has a status message.  Also note that
port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

				 

				Way more info than you probably need,
but I do hope some of it helps.

				 

				Tod Hansmann

				Network Engineer

				 

				 <http://www.directpointe.com/>   

				
________________________________


				From: Josh Luthman [mailto:
josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
				Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58
PM
				To: hobbit at hswn.dk
				Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration

				 

				What I am trying to do is have two
BBDisplay servers.  The first one being our main one - monitors our
network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the
customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.
				
				I have setup this in bb-hosts on the
main one:
				
				page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
				group-compress <H3><I>Access
Points</I></H3>
				1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn 
				
				group-compress <H3><I>HIDM
Hardware</I></H3>
				2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn 
				
				Reason for the noconn is that these are
all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These
configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception
of noconn, of course =)
				
				I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
				
				BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0> "
				BBDISPLAYS="
10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
				
				I have also tried it without quotes
				
				When I set this neither BBDisplay has
anything on the www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it
to 
				
				BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of
a single hobbit/bbd server
				BBDISPLAYS=""
				
				It works perfectly fine on the
customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)
				
				Please let me know where I went wrong.
Thanks in advance!
				
				Josh
				
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				Josh Luthman
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				Direct: 937-552-2343
				1100 Wayne St
				Suite 1337
				Troy, OH 45373
				
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condemned to reinvent it, poorly. 
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			-- 
			Josh Luthman
			Office: 937-552-2340
			Direct: 937-552-2343
			1100 Wayne St
			Suite 1337
			Troy, OH 45373
			
			Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to
reinvent it, poorly. 
			--- Henry Spencer 




	-- 
	Josh Luthman
	Office: 937-552-2340
	Direct: 937-552-2343
	1100 Wayne St
	Suite 1337
	Troy, OH 45373
	
	Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly. 
	--- Henry Spencer 

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