[hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Josh Luthman josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
Mon Nov 5 21:35:42 CET 2007


Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is
easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host.  The
links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need to
be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge or
www tests are or what changed I need to do.  I would imagine it is simply
adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the
hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh



On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:
>
>  Ah.  You have a couple of options.
>
> a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local
> server as well as the main server.  This means that your customer clients
> must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the
> bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.
>
> b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer location
> send up a summary to your main server.  You will get a single dot that shows
> the overall status of that customer.  The dot is linked to the Hobbit page
> on the remote server.  This way you don't have to keep updating your central
> server as hosts come and go at remote locations.
>
> And you can mix and match these methods.
>
> GLH
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
> *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
>
> I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to
> change and the hosts are not identical.
>
> Let me tell you how the overall picture looks.  We have a main Hobbit
> server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and
> things.  Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to
> get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access
> points.  Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information
> that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.
>
> The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their
> guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but
> another page that includes the hotel's hosts.
>
> Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(
>
> Josh
>
> On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:
> >
> >  We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are
> > made.  You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.
> >
> >
> >
> > Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo
> >
> >
> >
> > Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both?  The bb-gen
> > won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via
> > bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from
> > one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you
> > have any errors in the bb-display log?
> >
> >
> >
> > *Tod Hansmann*
> >
> > Network Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.directpointe.com/>
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
> > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> >
> >
> >
> > Tod,
> >
> > I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any
> > information (concerning these hosts).  I do know that 1984 is "connectable"
> > from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).
> >
> > Any other ideas out there?  From what little I know about this it seems
> > like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is
> > this true?  What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both
> > bbdisplays?
> >
> > Josh
> >
> > On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:
> >
> > So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests,
> > and also send alerts to the main display.  So the main display is an
> > aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to be similar to what you're
> > doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is the testers:
> >
> > BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "
> >
> > BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"
> >
> >    ------ more stuff -------
> >
> > BBLOCATION="poller1"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The BBLOCATION is important to the setup.  I'll point out why in a
> > moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This is the main display:
> >
> > BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"
> >
> > BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"
> >
> > BBDISPLAYS=""
> >
> >    ------ more stuff -------
> >
> > BBLOCATION="display"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1
> > polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be
> > useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to
> > include.  I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go
> > with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has
> > bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message.
> > Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any
> > firewalls.
> >
> >
> >
> > Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Tod Hansmann*
> >
> > Network Engineer
> >
> >
> >
> > <http://www.directpointe.com/>
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM
> > *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk
> > *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration
> >
> >
> >
> > What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers.  The first one
> > being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a
> > second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches,
> > etc.
> >
> > I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:
> >
> > page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
> > group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3>
> > 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn
> >
> > group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3>
> > 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn
> >
> > Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only
> > by the customer's LAN.  These configuration match those of the customer's
> > bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)
> >
> > I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed
> > it as such:
> >
> > BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0"
> > BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
> >
> > I have also tried it without quotes
> >
> > When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're
> > completely blank!  Once I switch it to
> >
> > BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server
> > BBDISPLAYS=""
> >
> > It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is
> > display blank (obviously =)
> >
> > Please let me know where I went wrong.  Thanks in advance!
> >
> > Josh
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> > --- Henry Spencer
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>


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