[hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows

Manu yoogie at schurkennetz.de
Mon Nov 28 20:06:20 CET 2005


Hi,

I'm absolutely new to this list but I just want to throw my thoughts in.

On the bigbrother extensions-site I saw a perl script implementing the 
bigbrother protocol.
Taking this script as a starting point, using some perl-modules from 
the Win32::-family, making use of the WMI ( 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/wmisdk/wmi/wmi_reference.asp ) 
and a bit of hacking would end up with a hobbit-windows client.

In our IT department (where we use many windows servers, 
unfortunately), it is not applicable to have cygwin on the servers. So 
the best way would rather be writing a hobbit client either in perl or 
C#.

....
Sorry for mentioning C# and discrediting cygwin, but I wanted to state 
that (IMHO) cygwin is not the (business concerning) answer...

regards,
Manuel


----- Message from henrik at hswn.dk ---------
     Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:25:48 +0100
     From: Henrik Stoerner <henrik at hswn.dk>
Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk
  Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit client for Windows
       To: hobbit at hswn.dk


> On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:44:30PM +0800, Vernon Everett wrote:
>> The biggest problem with a Windoze client will be the inconsistency of
>> Windoze.
>> With some versions, a command is standard. With others you require a
>> service pack. Still others require the resource kit. Some versions of
>> Windoze just don't have some commands. It gets quite ugly.
>> I have been informed by my Windoze admin colleague that the behaviour of
>> commands can differ between versions too.
>> Cygwin is consistent, but not complete.
>
> Indeed - despite all the talk about Unix being "fragmented", the
> Unix API and command-interface is immensely more consistent than
> the Windows ditto.
>
>> I now understand why Henrik hasn't produced a Windoze client yet.
>
> It took me about a week to write all of the Unix clients - Linux,
> *BSD, AIX, HP-UX, plus the server-side back-end - after which I had
> a rough implementation that mostly worked, but needed some testing.
>
> It's been about 7 years since I last had the misfortune to do any
> programming on Windows, so writing a Win32 client would probably
> take significantly longer than that. The Windows "performance counter"
> API is just ... abominable.
>
> (If you want to see some live examples of the different ways of
>  thinking in the OpenSource world vs. the Windows world, have a
>  look at this comparison between the Open Document (.odt) XML format
>  and Microsoft's .docx XML format.
>     http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20051125144611543
>  If you thought using XML would help with interoperability,
>  you're in for a surprise).
>
> My biggest concern for a Windows client is how to support it.
>
>
> Regards,
> Henrik
>
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