RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)

[Galen Johnson <Galen.Johnson (at) sas.com>]

I started out on sourceforge...it didn't work out too well.

-----Original Message-----
From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang (at) hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:01 AM
To: hobbit (at) hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)



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From: "Galen Johnson" <Galen.Johnson (at) sas.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:52 AM
To: <hobbit (at) hswn.dk>
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit"
name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)

> I'm not saying they weren't very nice...I agree it could have been handled
> in a much less friendly manner...lawyers never cease to amuse me.
>
> Of course, when we pick a new name, I'm going to have to figure out a
> different name for The Shire to go with it...maybe I'll call it "Live Dog"
> or "Undead Hamster" or "Flushed Fish"... :-D

Since Henrik is going to use sourceforge more and open up the acess,

How about  use sourceforge.net to host hobbit add-ons(The Shire)  ?

Lets pool in limited hobbit resources together.

tj

> =G=
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik (at) hswn.dk]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: hobbit (at) hswn.dk
> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit]
> "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
>
> In <36304.192.168.0.1.1217859745.squirrel (at) epperson.homelinux.net> "Hobbit
> User in Richmond" <hobbit (at) epperson.homelinux.net> writes:
>
>>On Mon, August 4, 2008 09:00, Galen Johnson wrote:
>>> After reading the letters, it looked to me that as soon as they found
>>> out
>>> they couldn't pin anyone down to get a slice of the ephemeral pie, they
>>> decided that the name should be changed.
>
>>Well, as a PHB who's also a Linux lead, the way I read the letters is that
>>as soon as they found out they couldn't pin anyone down to commit to not
>>selling  slices of their client's pie and not giving any more of it away
>>than was already the case, they wanted a name change.  I thought the
>>attitude was quite refreshing after seeing decades worth of threatening
>>cease-and-desist letters.
>
>
> I agree. I think they have been treated me nicely; they could have just
> sent me a "stop-doing-this-or-we'll-sue-you-now" letter. They didn't,
> and in fact they have been generous to suggest a couple of possible
> name changes that I could do which would keep them happy.
>
> Add to this that they actually knew what I was talking about, when I
> told them that Hobbit is an Open Source product, so there is no money
> involved.
>
> They have a trademark to defend, and one of the rules of that game is
> that they MUST react when they become aware of possible violations of
> their trademark; if they don't, then they can forfeit their ownership
> of the trademark. So they have to do something, and I think they handled
> this nicely.
>
> Sure - having to rename everythin IS annoying, but I should have thought
> about that when I first picked the name.
>
>
> Regards,
> Henrik
>
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