Re: [hobbit] resend: 2 questions

["Gary Baluha" <gumby3203 (at) gmail.com>]

I say the color should be brown, then...

On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Jeff Newman <jeffnewman75 (at) gmail.com>
wrote:

> Right. I think the concept is
>
> Level 1: "warning everyone, something bad could happen, or might not,
> may want to look"
>                  - Yellow
> Level 2: "Hey look, it was just a warning before, but now, it's bad
> and service might
>              be interrupted unless you take action, this is your last
> chance buddy!"
>                  - Red
> Level 3: "I've told you repeatedly, and now look whats happened! You've
> reached
>             super critical orange level! That means within minutes
> your service will be dead.
>             run for the hills, the sky is falling, the phone is about
> to ring non-stop"
>                  - Orange
>
> i think 3 levels makes sense for some specific applications.
>
> -jeff
>
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 4:57 AM, michael nemeth <michael.nemeth (at) lmco.com>
> wrote:
> > Actually the licenses are better example,  Right now I can create numeric
> > limits  of say
> > 97-102 yellow,  103 to 121 red,   but have no way of telling when I go
> > over.  And that the first quesion
> > management going to ask, being they are very happy to see there money
> well
> > spent with 100%
> > utilization.
> >  My clearcase script DO return rejections.  So with orange I could tell
> > management how many times
> > (at least that) and how long it was orange . Also, of course  try to
> handle
> > the orange condition!
> >
> > Point is a "Drop Dead, color  is useful .
> >
> > Gary Baluha wrote:
> >
> > If that's the case, a fourth color would have the same limitation ;-)
> > (That's a lot of disk space if 100% full = gigs of free space)
> >
> > With the lack of a finer granularity, the only option you have is to
> create
> > a custom script (client-side or server-side should work in this case)
> that
> > checks the _amount_ (as opposed to _percentage_) of free space, and set a
> > green/yellow/red threshold based on that.  You could then set up the
> Hobbit
> > alert rules like any other test, and it sounds like this would solve your
> > particular problem.
> >
> > (a client-side script would probably be the easiest to set up, depending
> on
> > how many machines it would need to be propagated to)
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 2:57 PM, michael nemeth <michael.nemeth (at) lmco.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry, disagree!
> >> I can have gigs of space left at 100%  not critical  at all !!!!  Its
> not
> >> "beyond critical"  its  fatal if you hit zero free !
> >> Either one needs finer granularity (isn't numerical limits in the work)
> >> or a new  fatal color.  I have that run near    100 % all the time too.
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary Baluha wrote:
> >>
> >> The philosophy Hobbit uses for alerting is that you're okay until you
> >> reach a certain threshold.  At that point (yellow) you still have to
> respond
> >> to the event and take care of it, before it becomes a bigger issue.  If
> it
> >> continues, then you reach another threshold where stuff can (and usually
> >> does) break.  At this point, you _need_ to respond to the event.
> >>
> >> What you are proposing is a fourth level such that you are "beyond
> >> critical".  This is a similar concept to being "fatally killed" (as
> opposed
> >> to just being "killed").  The trick to running a successful monitoring
> >> system is setting the thresholds in the first place (which is easier
> said
> >> than done), such that you don't have any false-positives, but even more
> >> importantly, no false-negatives (i.e. an alert you should have gotten,
> but
> >> didn't).
> >>
> >> Can you give a more specific example (in as far as I.P./security will
> >> allow) of what you are trying to accomplish?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM, michael nemeth <
> michael.nemeth (at) lmco.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> One case I can think of is for even 100% you've  lots of but if you
> hits
> >>> 0 free you HAVE to do
> >>> some thing!
> >>>
> >>> Gary Baluha wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Jeff Newman <jeffnewman75 (at) gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> didn't see a reply, so thought i'd do a resend in case it got lost in
> >>>> the shuffle
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Two questions:
> >>>>
> >>>> QUESTION #1: Is it possible to have a third color alert? Meaning:
> >>>>
> >>>> One of my customers wants a setup like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> Custom script runs on client server, reports:
> >>>>
> >>>> foo : 80
> >>>>
> >>>> for example.
> >>>>
> >>>> They want less than 85 to be green, 85-90 yellow, 90-95 red, and above
> >>>> 95 any color, say orange.
> >>>> So far as I can tell, I can only use green, yellow, and red for
> >>>> alerts, and blue and purple are reserved.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Currently, no.  But it might help to understand why 4 alert levels are
> >>> desired.
> >>>
> >>>> QUESTION #2:
> >>>>
> >>>> lets say #1 above is possible, so my script sends hobbit the status
> >>>> line based on the it sees, with the
> >>>> status of green, yellow, red, and orange. The hobbit server recieves
> >>>> it, and uses the NCV module to build the rrd etc..
> >>>> In hobbit-alerts.cfg to say does the SERVICE keyword work for custom
> >>>> NCV type columns?
> >>>
> >>> The SERVICE tag in hobbit-alerts.cfg works for any column name, NCV or
> >>> otherwise.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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