[Xymon] Is this thing on?

Mon Aug 14 22:56:13 CEST 2023

I'm also into Bigbrother/Hobbit/Xymon business since decades, and from time
to time I was forced to use other monitoring tools but never found
something similar in being as flexible and powerful like Xymon, and on the
other hand so simple to maintain and extend if needed. My biggest
installation monitored 10k hosts and 400k rrd files on an 8 core RedHat
server and 64GB memory easily.
I have a lot of extension scripts to share but was kind of skeptical if
Xymonton is still the place to do this. Also I changed the gifs a lot to
create a more modern style (and increase the management acceptance).
But I have to admit I'm kind of tired about the discussions with security
team and management team about the future of Xymon, and that they don't
want to opt for a monitoring solution which didn't got updates since years.
I think Xymon is so mature and stable that it did not need regular new
versions (if installed and run at non root environments, what is easily
possible, it is more save and stable as all these tools with privileged
access needs), but it is a always the first and basic question. Even if
there is a very helpful community, if there is no update it is not
acceptable from a managements standpoint.
I can live with the current Xymon framework (that's how I use it for my
customers), and do not need a configuration GUI or database as backend. I
also do not need rpm packages as I'm always compile the servers for my
needs (non root, no standard path,...).
What I really would like to see is encrypted communication (the first
question of every customer, as this they have heard is absolutely necessary
these days. I know that there are workarounds possible, but they are, hm,
workarounds...).
And a well known and accepted place for extensions (remember deadcat?
strange name, but i learned a lot there). I think I will give Xymonton
another try, it is still online and available.

Btw: It is not possible to sign up for the Xymon user group anymore (we are
long time users and can comment, but no new users are allowed). If someone
can take over this mail service this would be more important then code
updates imho, to show that the project is still alive.

I like to see a lot of well known names taking part in this discussion, and
hope this will initiate some activity again for all of us Xymonters.

And: I'm still grateful to Henrik for such an incredible work and product.
I never had any issue caused by Xymon monitoring with dozens of
installations for years, but a lot (and you can take this literally) by all
other systems I had the "joy" to work with.

Norbert

Am Mo., 14. Aug. 2023 um 21:25 Uhr schrieb Zoltan Forray <zforray at vcu.edu>:

> I too have worked with Hobbit/BigBrother/Xymon for decades. We too have
> been looking at Xymon alternatives.  We were looking at Zabbix but with
> Solarwinds embedded everywhere, we will probably go with it fully to
> replace Xymon.
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32 AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was
>> BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.  My current Senior VP wants
>> Xymon to go away.  He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard
>> it via another channel.  We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've
>> never even seen the GUI for that.  We're also distributing Oracle
>> Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.  I don't know for sure,
>> but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell
>> support for OEM.  In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and
>> they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM
>> agents.  It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the
>> little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
>>
>> @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.  It's a military-related
>> company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make
>> sense.
>>
>> Ralph Mitchell
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41 AM Scot Kreienkamp <
>> Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it’s
>>> safe to say it’s flatlined.  Sad to see it fade, I’ve been using it for a
>>> decade or more.
>>>
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>>> *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM
>>> *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015
>>> that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It feels like Xymon has become a static project that’s going to fade
>>> away. That would be a shame as I for one think it’s a great tool.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM
>>> *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com>
>>> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
>>>
>>>
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