[hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon client design (was Xymon is practically dead)

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Neil;

Great tool, but it is java based...

.vp

> Hi Henrik
>
> Agreed. However I have done some experimenting with a package called JCrontab. It is a scheduler and what I do is schedule VBS scripts and other exe to run via this scheduler. The scheduler runs the scripts/program and reads from the standard io . Since all my scripts/exe write to the standard io I can return OS specific information to the Java application which in turn open a socket and writes to Xymon. It is very simple and extensible. Anyway just a thought. The more ideas we have to discuss the better.
>
> Regards
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henrik Størner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk]
> Sent: 02 July 2010 05:56 PM
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbitmon-developer at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon client design (was Xymon is practically dead)
>
> On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 10:27:41AM -0500, TJ Yang wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Tom Georgoulias
>>  wrote:
>>> On 07/02/2010 05:47 AM, Neil Franken wrote:
>>>
>>>> Xymon is just one part of the equation for me. I see a lot of
>>>> potential for Xymon in the Windows world but the BBWin client is well
>>>> a very quiet project as well. I am not sure yet if we would maybe
>>>> fork the code or create a new client. At this point I would suggest
>>>> that maybe we look at a Java based client for xymon so we can run on
>>>> a huge variety of platforms with one client. Anyway the whole client
>>>> is a whole different ball game.
>>>
>>> I would not be in favor of a java based client, the current design is much
>>> better on unix systems.  It's one of the reasons xymon works well.
>>>
>>
>> I can understand why Neil has this idea, it flashed in brain before.
>> Why not write once and run every where ?
>
> One very simple reason: The client needs to know about the
> specifics of the operating system it is running on - that's
> the whole purpose of having a client! Java tries very hard to
> isolate the underlying OS from the apps running inside the
> JVM, which runs counter to this.
>
> In other words - when you want to report on metrics specific
> to the OS, it doesn't really make sense to use an OS-agnostic
> tool.
>
> Another reason is that the client shouldn't require a lot of
> additional software besides what comes with the OS. And the
> output from the OS-specific tools will be well known to the
> admins who are going to use the data from Xymon.
>
>
> Regards,
> Henrik
>
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