[hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon is practically dead

[Neil Franken]

Hi 

At this point we will need to have some sort of meeting around the strategy going forward. I suspect this might be a little more involved as we are all in different time zones (gmt+2 here). However my gut feel is that we need to do a couple of basic things.

1) Developers need to get into the source code and assign various modules to those with the skills to develop and support it
2) Get solid documentation done on the various modules, protocols and pieces around the project.
3) Review the road map with Henrik and decide on a hit list of features(as we have a lot of people willing to help we can probably roll a lot of the work into one release).
4) Get cracking.

Xymon is just one part of the equation for me. I see a lot of potential for Xymon in the Windows world but the BBWin client is well a very quiet project as well. I am not sure yet if we would maybe fork the code or create a new client. At this point I would suggest that maybe we look at a Java based client for xymon so we can run on a huge variety of platforms with one client. Anyway the whole client is a whole different ball game. 

In my previous mails I asked to have the list of people who contribute closed by Monday next week so that we can move ahead. This does not mean it is closed forever we just need to set a cut off so we can start getting the planning done. 

Hope the rest agrees with me.

Regards
Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Johan Sjöberg [mailto:johan.sjoberg at deltamanagement.se] 
Sent: 02 July 2010 11:28 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon is practically dead

Hi.

I just want to say that I am really glad that you people are planning to resurrect the Xymon development. My company has started considering a switch to another monitoring software because of the non-existent development, but I would really like to stay with Xymon. If I could code and had some more time to spare I would be happy to help, but I don't think I can contribute much at the moment.
Have you set up any plans regarding the future development? Are you going to follow the roadmap that Henrik posted on the list a long time ago?

Keep up the great work,
Johan

-----Original Message-----
From: TJ Yang [mailto:tjyang2001 at gmail.com] 
Sent: den 2 juli 2010 08:03
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon is practically dead

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Neil Franken
<nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
> Put me up for:
>
> 1)      Development
>
> 2)      Documentation
>
> 3)      Support
>
Done, you are 21st person answered the call for help.
>
> At the moment I am busy with another project so my spare time is kinda of
> eaten up. However this project will come to a close in a month more or less
> and i will have much more free time to help. Like I mentioned to some of you
> I am working on some new layout for the web gui and will have some templates
> for you guys in a week. I will also create some documentation around using
> Wireshark and the Xymon Protocol.

This will be a great howto addition to wikibook howto.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/HOWTO

Thanks
>
>
> Regards
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com]
> Sent: 02 July 2010 06:06 AM
>
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Re: [Hobbitmon-developer] Xymon is practically dead
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 11:16 PM, TJ Yang <tjyang2001 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 9:57 PM, David Baldwin
> <david.baldwin at ausport.gov.au> wrote:
>> TJ Yang wrote:
>>>> Before a new admin is chosen, I think it would be a good idea to create
>>>> a
>>>> list of the tasks and responsibilities that the volunteer(s) would be
>>>> taking
>>>> on.  It doesn't have to be a complete list, but just something that
>>>> covers
>>>> the major points.  If you want to be an active developer (and I hope
>>>> that
>>>> you do, as you know the code better than anyone and can help others get
>>>> up
>>>> to speed), it would be nice to know what the admin(s) should be helping
>>>> you
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>
>>> How about this ?
>>>
>>>
>>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Xymon_volunteers_resource_allocation
>>>
>
> It is renamed as
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Xymon_volunteers_Roles_and_Responsiblity
>
>>> If no objection, I will put in more effort complete the table.
>>> tj
>>>
>> Good stuff to see all this activity which is very timely in ensuring
>> that hobbit/xymon has a viable future.
>>
>> I am also keen to be involved. I've done quite a lot of custom tests
>
> I take that as a Yes. You are tagged as Volunteer in Dev area.
>
>> mostly written in perl, devmon templates, custom graphs, etc. Good
>> intentions to get an installable xymon package for MacOSX that would be
>> good to get kicked along as part of this momentum.
>
> David, I once created an OS X .pkg file from command line approach.
> But the package was just an binary untar, no package script actions
> from pre-flight,post-flight  .pkg script.
> I am hoping to work on this again with your help.
>
> tj
>
>> Occasionally I've
>> dived into the C source and diagnosed some bugs. Haven't read the doco
>> enough either - keep finding hidden gems which I expect others may have
>> missed as well.
>
>  I've poked around a bit in the source and written a lot of checkout scripts
> for web pages and other things.  Unfortunately that was mostly at my last
> employer, and I may not be able to introduce Xymon to my current employer.
> That will severely  any development I might do, but I can proofread docs for
> spelling and grammer, if not for technical accuracy...
>
> I've also been doing a bit of end used support in the mailing list.
>
> Ralph Mitchell



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T.J. Yang

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