[hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Tod Hansmann
thansmann at directpointe.com
Wed Sep 26 19:18:29 CEST 2007
I whole-heartedly agree. It's also more secure if you create a new,
very limited user, and compile into their home dir. It makes for easy
backups of the whole config and historical data if you're into that sort
of thing, too.
Should be easy to do.
Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:09 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I would compile it by hand (but that's just me)...I hate when package
maintainers spread everything hither and yon (what's really wrong with
it living under /usr/local or /opt?...at least you know where everything
is that pertains to that application)...like apache...you might find
it's actually easier to configure that way. I'm fairly certain that
there are some readme's, etc that come with the tarball that may or may
not be included in the packages...if they are in the packages, I really
doubt they've been updated to describe the package distribution and
what/where to change things.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:28 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Tod,
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your
advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty,
owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions.
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories
around....the main install at first glance seems to be in
/usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server
directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory
however shows the soft links:
etc -> /etc/hobbit
tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp
web -> /etc/hobbit/web
www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in
/usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit
installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to
/bb/bb19c.
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and
patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more
productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install
to build it on the environment it will be running on?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:thansmann at directpointe.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script
running. I
usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers).
You
might want to check the permissions on these directories and
make sure
there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
specifically, the subfolders in it).
I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.
Our
entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in
/home/hobbit,
with subdirectories going out from there. Makes things easier
to secure
and easier to manage. Did you divide those up on purpose?
Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you
have
setup for data compilation. These would be the $BBVAR and the
variables
in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to
happen in
the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow
the user
apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set
up
hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit
help/man
pages.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to
point to
the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt
working
however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and
pasted the
following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Password file where users with access to these scripts are
kept.
# Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
USERNAME"
# Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
Require valid-user
</Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started
working, with
the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the
2
reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its
not
requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights
thing
because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages.
Is that a
possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your
apache
httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an
Include
directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there
is
anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time,
regardless
of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked
something
simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas
[mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status
not
Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the
network
slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of
data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul
[mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring
project at
my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2,
and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit
from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error
messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up
hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on
any of the
tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status
for that
hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not
Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view"
from the
view
> menus and look at the tests historically they
are all
there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the
files for
the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and
they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients.
A ps -ef
| grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up
and
running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the
structure
of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure
where
to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors
in
reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to
run a
snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create
output
> directory", and the config report says it
cannot
contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post,
please let
me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone
has a
little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I
will
promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the
shoe is
on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
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