[hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes
Josh Luthman
josh at imaginenetworksllc.com
Tue Oct 30 00:38:11 CET 2007
Something like...
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071008
Firefox/2.0.0.8
On 10/29/07, Scott Wilson <swilson at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>
> What web browser do you use? Since I tried it with meany sites (not all
> apache) and had the same behavior, I think the "ssl pages jump to top on
> refresh" is more likely to be a browser based issue.
>
> Scott Wilson Lead System Administrator
> swilson at uchicago.edu NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
>
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Tod Hansmann wrote:
>
> > We use SSL exclusively with ours and it maintains its position. I'm
> > thinking this would be in your apache configs somewhere. Have you asked
> > an Apache list about this?
> >
> > Tod Hansmann
> > Network Engineer
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Wilson [mailto:swilson at uchicago.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:54 PM
> > To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> > Subject: Re: [hobbit] Strange "problem" with refreshes
> >
> >
> > Yup, it seems to be a fundamental property of how Firefox handles
> > refreshes. If you refresh a SSL page, it bounces to the top. A non-SSL
> >
> > page stays where it is.
> >
> > I've tried it with other web pages, and they all function that way.
> >
> >
> > Scott Wilson Lead System Administrator
> > swilson at uchicago.edu NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >
> >> So you're telling us that the only variable you changed was SSL and it
> >> worked perfectly?
> >>
> >> Very odd...
> >>
> >> On 10/26/07, Scott Wilson <swilson at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I found the answer. It's pretty simple really...
> >>>
> >>> I was using SSL with my hobbit server. With SSL'ed web pages,
> > refreshes
> >>> force you back to the top of the page. NonSSL'ed web pages (which I
> > had
> >>> totally disabled) work fine.
> >>>
> >>> Now I just need to hack up the header files so the secure areas point
> > to
> >>> SSL even when I'm looking at the nonSSL pages. But as I already ran
> > into
> >>> the header files while debugging this, that should be trivial.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for the help!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Scott Wilson Lead System Administrator
> >>> swilson at uchicago.edu NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am using this for an Apache server:
> >>>>
> >>>> Server version: Apache/2.2.3
> >>>> Server built: Jun 26 2007 19:26:32
> >>>>
> >>>> Latest and greatest package from the default repo's. Using CentOS 5
> >>> (which
> >>>> is RHEL based).
> >>>>
> >>>> I honestly have no idea how the page stays position. It has to do
> >>> something
> >>>> along the lines of cache, but that is a client side thing so...my
> > ideas
> >>> stop
> >>>> here =(
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let us know what you come up with. I know I would like to
> > know
> >>> the
> >>>> resolution to this.
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh
> >>>>
> >>>> On 10/26/07, Scott Wilson <swilson at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brilliant thought....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The demo does maintain position exactly as I want. So it
> > definitely
> >>> isn't
> >>>>> hobbit in general. My best guess now is it somehow lies in my
> > Apache.
> >>>>> That's just RedHat's stock Apache 2.0.52, but it may be related to
> > a
> >>>>> module (I shutoff the mods I wasn't using).... at least I have
> >>> something
> >>>>> to poke at now....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Scott Wilson Lead System Administrator
> >>>>> swilson at uchicago.edu NSIT - DCS - SeaSol
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Troubleshooting technique!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Use the Hobbitmon demo on the project page. This was the only
> > page
> >>> long
> >>>>>> enough (for me - 1680x1050 resolution) for me to scroll down and
> >>>>> maintain my
> >>>>>> position.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/services/services.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Does this maintain position for you, Scott?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My client: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
> > rv:1.8.1.8)
> >>>>>> Gecko/20071008 Firefox/2.0.0.8
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 10/26/07, Hobbit User <hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, October 26, 2007 11:48, Scott Wilson wrote:
> >>>>>>>> What is the behavior for others? Do others not get forced to
> > the
> >>> top
> >>>>>>> upon
> >>>>>>>> refresh. (Automatic or manual has the same behavior.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Firefox 1.5.0.12 on Centos EL5 maintains position on refresh.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Help-->About Firefox: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:
> >>>>> 1.8.0.12)
> >>>>>>> Gecko/20070719 CentOS/1.5.0.12-3.el5.centos
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
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> >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
> > poorly.
> >>>>>> --- Henry Spencer
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>> Suite 1337
> >>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>
> >>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
> > poorly.
> >>>> --- Henry Spencer
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Josh Luthman
> >> Office: 937-552-2340
> >> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >> 1100 Wayne St
> >> Suite 1337
> >> Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> >> --- Henry Spencer
> >>
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