[hobbit] Shire: update

Buchan Milne bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net
Thu Aug 3 18:26:27 CEST 2006


On Tuesday 01 August 2006 05:44, Galen Johnson wrote:
> Galen Johnson wrote:
> > Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on the new monitor site that
> > is being set up (theshire.sf.net)...Sourceforge accepted it late last
> > night ( around midnight EDT).   I want to work with Henrik a bit to
> > make sure that our visions converge on this.  I also need to set up
> > the categories (at a minimum) before turning everyone loose...I would
> > prefer there to be some structure in place beforehand.  Please be
> > patient...I really appreciate everyone's enthusiasm for this project
> > and I hope to have everything going in the next few days.  It's also
> > been a LONG time since I've done anything on SF and need to refresh my
> > memory about things (and become familiar with some of the new tools).
> >
> > =G=
> >
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>
> OK...we're getting to the point to where we need to consider the
> categories...personally, I think deadcat has too many.

My initial reaction to this is that I don't think a site with a collection of 
categories and random scripts uploaded to the categories is the best 
solution. I don't think the deadcat site should be the model. (If it isn't, 
and you've meant something else by "categories", ignore the rest).

Speaking from a software packaging point-of-view (I maintain ~ 60 packages in 
Mandriva, most in contrib - including hobbit - but a few in the main 
distribution, and also maintain roughly 50 packages that we use internally, 
some of them being the ones I maintain for Mandriva), it's not convenient to 
have to download, test, understand, debug each extension script (or plugin 
for a web application).

I would much prefer to work toward a realease strategy, where there may be a 
release of all the "supported" extensions (maybe one release for client 
extensions, and one for server extensions).

This would also hopefully lead to having a more consistent set of extensions, 
and instead of duplicating extensions when an author has not been 
contributing to their extension anymore, it would be moved to maintenance.

Then, it would also be practical to package the extensions, and hopefully all 
that would be required to use the extension would be to enable it (eg, each 
extension should be shipped with a .cfg file suitable for placement in a 
directory configured as an "include" directory in hobbitlaunch.cfg) and add 
the necessary tags to the bb-hosts file.

BTW, this is more or less what I have done with the 2 extension scripts I have 
written for hobbit (one server extensions for performance/replication 
monitoring of OpenLDAP, one client extension for checking updates from RHN 
for RH boxen).

Regards,
Buchan


-- 
Buchan Milne
ISP Systems Specialist
B.Eng,RHCE(803004789010797),LPIC-2(LPI000074592)
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