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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">From the rrddef.cfg comments:<br>
      # Each section key is the column- or data-name reported from your<br>
      # client test. Typically this is "cpu", "memory", "tcp", or some<br>
      # custom test you have created.<br>
      <br>
      In your original script:<br>
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        <div>[ buda ext]# cat httpd_threads.sh </div>
        <div>#!/bin/bash</div>
        <div>THREADS_HTTP=`ps -ef | grep -c [h]ttpd`</div>
        <div><b>LINE="data $MACHINE.<font color="#ff0000">trends</font></b></div>
        <div>[httpd_threads.rrd]</div>
        <div>DS:threads:GAUGE:5:U:U $THREADS_HTTP"</div>
        <div>$BB $BBDISP "$LINE"</div>
        <div><br>
          <br>
          it appears that your  data name is "trends".  This is what
          xymon is trying to match in rrddef.cvf.  The key you should be
          using in rrddef.cfg. <br>
          <br>
          [trends]<br>
              -s 5
          <div>    RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
          <div>    RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
          <div>    RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
          <div>    RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
          <br>
          With that said, "trends" is already a column heading... I'm
          not sure that using it for your rrd key won't cause other
          problems in xymon.  Maybe change it to "httpd_threads"?<br>
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      If that doesn't work, try putting the -s in the default section
      "[]", and see if that works.  You shouldn't leave it there as it
      will set all future graphs to a 5 second step, but it works there,
      then you know your problem is with your data name and key.<br>
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      On 02/08/2013 09:47 AM, Nico wrote:<br>
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      <div>i modified also the name but no change.</div>
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        <div>[httpd_threads]</div>
        <div>        -s 5</div>
        <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
        <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
        <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
        <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
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        <div>There is no column, the script is only posting RRD data.</div>
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                          <div>[ buda ext]# cat httpd_threads.sh </div>
                          <div>#!/bin/bash</div>
                          <div>THREADS_HTTP=`ps -ef | grep -c [h]ttpd`</div>
                          <div>LINE="data $MACHINE.trends</div>
                          <div>[httpd_threads.rrd]</div>
                          <div>DS:threads:GAUGE:5:U:U $THREADS_HTTP"</div>
                          <div>$BB $BBDISP "$LINE"</div>
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        <div>Is it the issue ?</div>
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        <div>Cheers</div>
        <div>NIco</div>
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          <div>Le 8 févr. 2013 à 15:22, Michael Beatty <<a
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">in your rrdef.cfg file, Is
                your key correct?  Is the column you are reporting
                really [httpd_threads/15]?  This key is what it matches
                against your column.  If your key is [httpd_threads/15]
                but the column is "httpd_threads" (without the "/15"),
                then the rrd will be created with the default "[]"
                definition.<br>
                <br>
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                On 02/08/2013 09:06 AM, Nico wrote:<br>
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                <div>i tried "-s" trick and i also checked the man of
                  rrdcreation which made a reference of your suggestion:
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>
                    <div> --step|-s step (default: 300 seconds)</div>
                    <div>       Specifies the base interval in seconds
                      with which data will be fed into the RRD.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>i tried to add both in rrddefinitions.cfg :</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>[httpd_threads/15]</div>
                      <div><span class="Apple-tab-span"
                          style="white-space:pre"> </span>--step 5</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>or </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>
                      <div>[httpd_threads/15]</div>
                      <div><span class="Apple-tab-span"
                          style="white-space:pre"> </span>- s 5</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
                      <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
                    </div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>But it doesn't change anything, the RRD file is
                      still created with 300.</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>What s wrong ?</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>Cheers</div>
                    <div>Nico</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div>
                      <div>Le 8 févr. 2013 à 14:57, Nico <<a
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                          <div><br>
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                          <div>Thanks for answer.</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>I updated the rrddefinitons.cfg with your
                            recommandations :</div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>[httpd_threads/15]</div>
                            <div>        -s 5</div>
                            <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
                            <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
                            <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
                            <div>        RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Then i restarted xymon server (it is
                              needed ? in doubt i did it).</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>I also deleted the previous RRD file to
                              see how is created a fresh one after the
                              modification:</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div><?xml version="1.0"
                                encoding="utf-8"?></div>
                              <div><!DOCTYPE rrd SYSTEM "<a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/rrdtool.dtd">http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/rrdtool.dtd</a>"></div>
                              <div><!-- Round Robin Database Dump
                                --></div>
                              <div><rrd></div>
                              <div>       
                                <version>0003</version></div>
                              <div>        <step><b>300</b></step>

                                <!-- Seconds --></div>
                              <div>       
                                <lastupdate>1360331300</lastupdate>
                                <!-- 2013-02-08 14:48:20 CET --></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>        <ds></div>
                              <div>                <name> threads
                                </name></div>
                              <div>                <type> GAUGE
                                </type></div>
                              <div>               
                                <minimal_heartbeat><b>5</b></minimal_heartbeat></div>
                              <div>               
                                <min>NaN</min></div>
                              <div>               
                                <max>NaN</max></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>                <!-- PDP Status
                                --></div>
                              <div>               
                                <last_ds>32</last_ds></div>
                              <div>               
                                <value>3.1000000000e+03</value></div>
                              <div>                <unknown_sec>
                                105 </unknown_sec></div>
                              <div>        </ds></div>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Unfortunately, it is still a step of
                              300.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>What did i miss ?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Thanks again.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Cheers</div>
                            <div>Nico</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div>Le 8 févr. 2013 à 14:19, Michael
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                                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The 5 in
                                    your DS is your heartbeat, not step.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Put a -s parameter in
                                    rrddefinitions.cfg  ie:<br>
                                    <br>
                                    [httpd_treads/5]<tt><br>
                                          -s 5<br>
                                          </tt>RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576
                                    <div>       RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
                                    <div>       RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
                                    <div>      
                                      RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    This will change your step to 5
                                    seconds.  Note, that you will
                                    probably want to change your
                                    heartbeat to a value greater than
                                    your step.  By setting your
                                    heartbeat = step, you are running a
                                    probable scenario of missing data. 
                                    Your heartbeat should be greater
                                    than your step, I'd recommend
                                    double, if not triple.<tt><br>
                                      <br>
                                    </tt>Both step and heartbeat are set
                                    when the rrd file is created, you
                                    cannot change them on the fly.  If
                                    you do not wish to lose existing
                                    data, you will need to run "rrdtool
                                    tune -h threads:10" to change your
                                    heartbeat.   Then, you will need to
                                    dump your rrd to a file, edit the
                                    xml step with a text editor, then
                                    restore your rrd from the edited
                                    xml,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    rrdtool dump httpd_threads.rrd >
                                    threads.xml<br>
                                    edit the threads.xml setting step to
                                    5<br>
                                    rrdtool restore threads.xml
                                    httpd_threads.rrd<tt><br>
                                      <br>
                                    </tt>If you plan on doing this on
                                    several hosts, or plan on doing it
                                    frequently, I suggest you write a
                                    script and utilize the xymon grep
                                    utility.... it will make your life
                                    considerably easier.<tt><br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                      <br>
                                    </tt>
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                                    On 02/07/2013 02:59 PM, Nico wrote:<br>
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                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>I need to do a temporarily
                                      graph with a very low frequency :
                                      5 seconds instead of the regular
                                      300 seconds.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>1/ On client side, the external
                                      script is simple:</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div>[ buda ext]# cat
                                        httpd_threads.sh </div>
                                      <div>#!/bin/bash</div>
                                      <div>THREADS_HTTP=`ps -ef | grep
                                        -c [h]ttpd`</div>
                                      <div>LINE="data $MACHINE.trends</div>
                                      <div>[httpd_threads.rrd]</div>
                                      <div>DS:threads:GAUGE:5:U:U
                                        $THREADS_HTTP"</div>
                                      <div>$BB $BBDISP "$LINE"</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>So, as you can see, the step is
                                      5 in the DS.</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>clientlaunch.cfg has "INTERVAL
                                      5s".</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>2/ On Xymon server side : </div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>rrddefinitions.cfg  :</div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div># step = 5 seconds</div>
                                        <div>[httpd_threads/5]</div>
                                        <div>        # 576 * 60 * 5 sec
                                          = 48 h soit 2 jours sans perte</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:60:576</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:360:576</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1440:576</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:17280:576</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>
                                        <div># This one is the default
                                          setup. You can change it, if
                                          you like.</div>
                                        <div>[]</div>
                                        <div>        # 576 datapoints w/
                                          5 minute interval = 48 hours @
                                          5 min avg.</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:1:576</div>
                                        <div>        # 576 datapoints w/
                                          6*5 minute averaged = 12 days
                                          @ 30 min avg.</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:6:576</div>
                                        <div>        # 576 datapoints w/
                                          24*5 minute averaged = 48 days
                                          @ 2 hour avg.</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:24:576</div>
                                        <div>        # 576 datapoints w/
                                          288*5 minute averaged = 576
                                          days @ 1 day avg.</div>
                                        <div>       
                                          RRA:AVERAGE:0.5:288:576</div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>3/ RRD created:</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>here the issue, the step is
                                        still 300. The minimal_heartbeat
                                        is 5.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>rrdtool
                                        dump httpd_threads.rrd</div>
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                                      <div><?xml version="1.0"
                                        encoding="utf-8"?></div>
                                      <div><!DOCTYPE rrd SYSTEM "<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/rrdtool.dtd">http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/rrdtool.dtd</a>"></div>
                                      <div><!-- Round Robin Database
                                        Dump --></div>
                                      <div><rrd></div>
                                      <div>       
                                        <version>0003</version></div>
                                      <div>        <step><b>300</b></step>

                                        <!-- Seconds --></div>
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                                        <lastupdate>1360264485</lastupdate>
                                        <!-- 2013-02-07 20:14:45 CET
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                                      <div>        <ds></div>
                                      <div>                <name>
                                        threads </name></div>
                                      <div>                <type>
                                        GAUGE </type></div>
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                                        <minimal_heartbeat>5</minimal_heartbeat</div>
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                                    <div>--- snip ---</div>
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                                    <div>How can i change the step to 5
                                      instead of 300 ?</div>
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                                    <div>Thanks for your help.</div>
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                                    <div>Cheers</div>
                                    <div>Nico</div>
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