<div>If you ever refer to the same host twice in the bbhost file, you should give it an IP address of 0.0.0.0 and set it to "noconn".</div>
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<div>Why you might be able to do is to create a hierarchy of pages where the top page "points" to two sub pages, and each of them serves as the top of the the tree that you want to build, with new subpages to create your hierarchy.</div>
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<div>Xymon is not very flexible in presentation, which may be a good thing since it is easy to outsmart yourself when creating elaborate displays.</div>
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<div>Don't overlook the "Critical Systems View". You can use it to make "important" things more noticeable.</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/23/09, <b class="gmail_sendername">Harold J. Ballinger</b> <<a href="mailto:hballinger@heritage-healthcare.com">hballinger@heritage-healthcare.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">The only way that I could find to make this work was to use “include” instead of “dispinclude”, then create a second “fake host” entry with a different hostname and duplicate all of the tests using the “testip” tag, then use the NAME tag on this second “fake host”. </span><span style="COLOR: #1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p><b><span style="COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">Harold Ballinger</span></b><span style="COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"></span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> (888) 335-2620 | helpdesk</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:</span></b><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> Harold J. Ballinger [mailto:<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:hballinger@heritage-healthcare.com" target="_blank">hballinger@heritage-healthcare.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2009 2:57 PM<br><b>To:</b> '<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a>'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [hobbit] Alternate view for Management</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">Ok, I’ve made it halfway to my goal and just need a little nudge.</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">I modified my bb-hosts to have includes for each page of hosts:</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-hosted</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-remote</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-connectivity</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-facilities</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-servers</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-test</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">include bb-hosts-corporate</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"> </span></p>
<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">I then also included:</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">dispinclude bb-hosts-services</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">and I then created the bb-hosts-services to look like:</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">page services Business Services</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">group-compress Website</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">111.222.33.44 <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">www.mydomain.com</a> # <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">http://www.mydomain.com</a> NAME:"Company Website" COMMENT:"Company Website" DESCR:"webserver:Company Website"</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">222.33.44.55 <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://media.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">media.mydomain.com</a> # <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://media.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">http://media.mydomain.com</a> ftp NAME:"Company Media Files" COMMENT:"Company Media Files" DESCR:"webserver:Company Media Files"</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">33.44.55.66 <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://webstats.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">webstats.mydomain.com</a> # <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://webstats.mydomain.com/" target="_blank">http://webstats.mydomain.com</a> NAME:"Website Statistics" COMMENT:"Website Statistics" DESCR:"webserver:Website Statistics"</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">I was attempting to get the “Business Services” page to have “friendly names” only and not the actual hostnames. I am building this one page so that I can run an Availability Report and print this single page for a 10,000 ft view of business critical services. I would like for the headings and hostnames to be “friendly names” instead of actual hostnames since the target audience for this report will be non-technical. (The actual hostnames with all appropriate tests are already defined in their appropriate pages and those pages are the ones used by IT in their day-to-day jobs.)</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">It looks like the dispinclude does what I expected and does not duplicate the tests for these hosts, but I couldn’t find a way to make the hostnames “friendly”. The NAME, COMMENT, and DESCR don’t seem to have any affect at all on this output. The comment doesn’t even show up in parenthesis as it normally would.</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: #1f497d">I seem to have hit a roadblock… Any ideas?</span></p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> (888) 335-2620 | helpdesk</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; COLOR: #215868; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"> (864) 224-3626 | office</span></p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [hobbit] Alternate view for Management</span></p>
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<p>Our support staff likes having our monitoring system setup & organized by logical category/type. However, management is more interested in a view that is organized by business impact.</p>
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<p>For example:</p>
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<p>IT Top Level View-</p>
<p> Hosted Services Corporate Connectivity</p>
<p> Corporate Servers Corporate Desktops</p>
<p> Remote Laptops Facility Connectivity</p>
<p> Facility Desktops </p>
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<p>Management Top Level View-</p>
<p> Email (Subpage containing all dependent hosts/services)</p>
<p> HRMS (same as above)</p>
<p> Sales CRM </p>
<p> i.e. a listing for each “service” provided – possibly even maintained below subpages for each business unit</p>
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<p>Management wants availability and impact by the specific service and business unit impacted (10,000 foot view showing all dependencies), while IT is interested in the detail of the cogs/gears that make it all work.</p>
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<p>Do I just create a second listing for all of the hosts on a separate page structure? Would this generate twice as many network tests for the hosts that are listed duplicate times?</p>
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<p>Any suggestions?</p>
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<p>Thanks!</p></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br>