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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do realize that we need to provide business
with solutions instead of preffered software. We are a small organization
growing fast. So currently I am monitoring 15 servers with Xymon. I have been
able to customize xymon to show me SQL user connections, SQL transactions per
second and all the other good stuff. However the new HOD has decided that open
source is rubbish. He hates it and does not want any open source products on
the site. I have approached my CTO about this as it seems we are being forced
to use solutions that this guy has some experience with. IMHO use the best tool
for the job. Xymon is perfect when I started here there was no monitoring in
place. With Xymon’s help I took a severely unstable SQL environment to
something that actually runs smoothly. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Anyway once again thanks for the input. I
just needed to show my CTO that this is not just some small time mickey mouse
monitoring system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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david.peters@dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters@dpi.nsw.gov.au] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 01 July 2009 01:44 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> hobbit@hswn.dk<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [hobbit] Wanna show
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way, we do both and the authentication is done to the AD domain so you use your
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I totally agree and have an example : the company where i work.<br>
We monitor 4 datacenters with it and it work great.<br>
Sadly, hobbit hasn't the possibility to create profiles and granty access to
only some parts of the web console.<br>
So we are thinking to move on another product, preferably in a model between
entreprise and community product.<br>
i'm sad we can't wait the new releases of xymon coming... but we need to admit
that hobbit, however good it is, has not thoses functionalities yet<br>
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Reagds,<br>
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Denis<br>
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<st1:City w:st="on">Everett</st1:City>, <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Vernon</st1:place></st1:City>
wrote: <br>
</span></font><tt><font face="Courier New">Unfortunately, I agree with Buchan
on this.</font></tt><font face="Courier New"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">You need to remember, the purpose of IT is to
provide solutions, not run preferred software. </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">And this cuts both ways.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">You can't run Hobbit just because you like it.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">But by the same token, your PHB can't run his
commercial stuff, just because he likes it.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">It needs to provide a solution to a business need.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">One of the things you might find yourself up
against, is that Hobbit doesn't have "Golf days" with free booze, and
fancy cocktail parties and product launches with open bar tabs, goodie-bags and
other junkets that the big vendors can provide.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">And, for the morally elastic PHB, this is the
clincher, not the quality of the solution.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Good luck.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Regards</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"> V</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">From: Buchan Milne [</font></tt></span></font><a
href="mailto:bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net"><tt><font face="Courier New">mailto:bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net</font></tt></a><tt><font
face="Courier New">] </font></tt><font face="Courier New"><span
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Sent: Monday, 29 June 2009 5:12 PM</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">To: </font></tt></span></font><a
href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk"><tt><font face="Courier New">hobbit@hswn.dk</font></tt></a><font
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Cc: Neil Franken</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Subject: Re: [hobbit] Wanna show off.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">On Monday 29 June 2009 08:32:00 Neil Franken
wrote:</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New"> </font></tt></span></font> <br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Where can I find the Hobbit User list? Our company
is being monitored </font></tt><font face="Courier New"><span style='font-family:
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<tt><font face="Courier New">by Xymon but we have a new manager here that
suffers from MS mania. </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">He now wants to spend a couple of thousand dollars
on a new monitoring system.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">I am not going to back down without a fight so if
I can show him this </font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">list maybe he will realize the error of his ways.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"> </font></tt></span></font> <br>
<font face="Courier New"><span style='font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">From a business perspective, there may not be an
error in his ways.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Frankly, a business needs to ensure that their
requirements are met in a cost effective manner.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">So, I would start out from the standpoint that
your monitoring tools may not necessarily satisfy the business requirements,
and that you are happy to work with him to document the monitoring
requirements. Once they are documented, show that you can satisfy all the
monitoring requirements with a lower cost, and no businessman will decide
against you.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Don't fight, cooperate to show that you take the
business needs into account, and have actually satisfied them.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">If there are any monitoring requirements you don't
meet yet ... identify them and let's see if we can provide options, before you
have to report.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">I can however note that at least two ISPs in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">South Africa</st1:place></st1:country-region> run
Hobbit/Xymon (and Devmon). A recent sporting event in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">South Africa</st1:place></st1:country-region>
used Hobbit for monitoring components of the network ...</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">I can give you some more examples off-list.</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Regards,</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Buchan</font></tt><br>
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