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<BR>This is a off topic of xymon logo.<BR>
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But this bring up another issue/concern of mine(as an Unix admin) twoward Xymon.<BR>
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"Not able to pay for Xymon for support service from a company"<BR>
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This is feedback/comment I got from mangement (of mine).<BR>
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Trying to understand why, from their perspective and I think I got the answer as following.<BR>
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Management want to avoid the lock-in from admin also. They want your in-depth knowledge<BR>
of the tool become a serivce that management can get from other sources, not just in-house admins.<BR>
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tj yang<BR>
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From: Galen.Johnson@sas.com<BR>To: hobbit@hswn.dk<BR>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:41:41 -0500<BR>Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?<BR><BR><BR>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">That's always been one of the things I've never understood about companies...they don't think they are getting worthwhile software unless they pay through the nose for it. Trust you admins and let them decide if it's worthwhile. They're the ones that will be using it day to day. I'll be the first to admit that there are some FOSS projects that aren't worth what you pay or them but they either get forked by people who care to make it better or they disappear altogether.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> michael nemeth [mailto:michael.nemeth@lmco.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 10, 2008 12:26 PM<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?</SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal>Yes ! Y our barely ok, Corporate type hate "cute" logos./icons and the' re distrustful enough when not <BR>ask to pay $1000s for a product. <BR><BR>|I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.<BR>|I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.<BR>T.J. Yang wrote: </P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Agree, no rush but I hope this task should be going on at lesser priority.<BR> <BR>see xym.jpg in this attached email(it is only 16KB) so I think it is ok to be sent via this email.<BR>I don't know engough about GIMP yet. I hope the "X" has four hobbit colors in the devided four sections.<BR>let me know if you want the xym.xcf gimp file to continue the work.<BR> <BR>I think logo design should be designed by the icon professional designer.<BR>I am willing to pitch in money for this cost also.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR>T.J. Yang<BR><BR><BR><BR></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>From: <A href="mailto:Vernon.Everett@woodside.com.au">Vernon.Everett@woodside.com.au</A><BR>To: <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk">hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:55:09 +0900<BR>Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?<BR><BR></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I agree.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Let's not rush into this.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Remember, we live in a world where lawyers prowl, and they will sue you, simply because your logo looks a little bit like theirs, or uses the same colours as theirs, or makes people crap the same colour as their logo does.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Hobbit worked fine for years without a logo, as did Linux, and many other products out there.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I am not saying we need to wait years before we come up with a logo, I just don't believe we need to rush into this.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Sometimes, when something doesn't need to be done, it is important that it isn't done.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Regards</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal><SPAN class=EC_ec498404914-10112008><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'"> Vernon</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Ralph Mitchell [<A href="mailto:ralphmitchell@gmail.com">mailto:ralphmitchell@gmail.com</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, 10 November 2008 11:41 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk">hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?</SPAN></P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">Uh, let's not go with something else that might be copyrighted... :)<BR><BR>Ralph Mitchell<BR><BR></P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal>On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Kern, Thomas <<A href="mailto:Thomas.Kern@hq.doe.gov">Thomas.Kern@hq.doe.gov</A>> wrote:</P>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal>Sort of like the Martian Probe from "The War of the Worlds"<BR><A href="http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm">http://www.war-ofthe-worlds.co.uk/gall_f16.htm</A> ?<BR><BR>/Thomas Kern<BR>/301-903-2211 (O)<BR>/301-905-6427 (M)</P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal><BR><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: Andrew Jackson [mailto:<A href="mailto:Andrew.Jackson@ordnancesurvey.co.uk">Andrew.Jackson@ordnancesurvey.co.uk</A>]<BR>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 09:06<BR>> To: <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk">hobbit@hswn.dk</A></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal>> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon Logo ?<BR>><BR>> I have these mad(/awful) ideas sometimes so I might as well air my<BR>> insanity<BR>><BR>> We have the red/amber/green traffic light colours for display<BR>><BR>> So some sort of traffic light logo with<BR>><BR>> X imposed on the red light - we don't want that<BR>><BR>> Y imposed on the amber light - we need to know why its amber<BR>><BR>> And MON with the O as the green light.<BR>><BR>> Someone with some artistic sensibilities could come up with the actual<BR>> look.<BR>><BR>> Right I'll crawl back under my stone now<BR>></P></DIV>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal>> Andrew Jackson<BR>> UNIX Systems Administrator<BR>> Server & Storage Services, Ordnance Survey<BR>> Room C633, Romsey Road, SOUTHAMPTON, United Kingdom, SO16 4GU<BR>> Phone: +44 (0) 23 8079 2848 | Fax: +44 (0) 23 8079 2757</P></DIV>
<P class=EC_MsoNormal>> <A href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/">www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk</A> <<A href="http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/">http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/</A>> |</P>
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<P class=EC_MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">> <A href="mailto:andrew.jackson@ordnancesurvey.co.uk">andrew.jackson@ordnancesurvey.co.uk</A><BR><BR></P></DIV>
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