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<DIV><SPAN class=416095115-11082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
issue with colour blindness is that it's not the same for everyone. Some people
can't see red, others can't see green, still others can't see easily see blue
(simplified, but close enough for this discussion).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=416095115-11082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So, we
could try and include multiple colour schemes, multiple shape schemes,
or both. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=416095115-11082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>For
the sake of simplicity I reckon on the multiple shapes idea (or simply changing
the shapes that we currently use, but it's nice to be
given choices).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=416095115-11082008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>|\/|artin</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Galen Johnson
[mailto:Galen.Johnson@sas.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 11 August 2008
16:11<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit"
name legal stuff; slight name change will happen<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">If
you’ve ever been to a real NOC, you’ll notice that they usually have a large
set of displays that are set up around the room for viewing problems at a
glance. I can understand where they would be viewing from a
distance.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ideally,
to aid color blind folks (I work with a guy that has Macular Degeneration and
requires a special application that reverses his video) and those that are
visually impaired, the icon set should have different shapes associated with
them as well. I’d have to go look but I think Steve Aiello’s set on The
Shire are this way.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 11, 2008
10:08 AM<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit"
name legal stuff; slight name change will happen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">I'm sorry...from a
distance?<BR><BR>It's a computer screen, not a TV.<BR><BR>You can make your
own custom smilies anyways. Just overwrite the images.<BR><BR
clear=all>Josh Luthman<BR>Office: 937-552-2340<BR>Direct: 937-552-2343<BR>1100
Wayne St<BR>Suite 1337<BR>Troy, OH 45373<BR><BR>Those who don't understand
UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.<BR>--- Henry
Spencer<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Stef Coene <<A
href="mailto:stef.coene@docum.org">stef.coene@docum.org</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Saturday 02 August 2008, Thomas Leavitt wrote:<BR>>
My wife is a professional web/graphic designer.<BR>><BR>> I'll ask her
to play around with creating another set of icons, although<BR>> Steve's
should be acceptable to the PHB types.<BR>><BR>> I do have to say that
no one here has grumbled at me about the name or<BR>> the
iconss.<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>I received some remarks from some of my collegaes. 4
of them have color<BR>blindness and it's very dificult to see the differences
between the smileys<BR>from a distance.<BR><SPAN
style="COLOR: #888888"><BR><BR>Stef</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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