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color=#0000ff size=2>Insert appropriate Prince (or the artist formerly referred
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> michael nemeth
[mailto:michael.nemeth@lmco.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 5 August 2008 11:53
PM<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [hobbit] Don't make the
pie higher!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>anyone suggest HNh (Hobbit is not hobbit) to follow GNU (gnu not
unix) ?<BR><BR>Josh Luthman wrote:
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<DIV dir=ltr>Flushed Fish has my vote.<BR><BR clear=all>Josh
Luthman<BR>Office: 937-552-2340<BR>Direct: 937-552-2343<BR>1100 Wayne
St<BR>Suite 1337<BR>Troy, OH 45373<BR><BR>Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly.<BR>--- Henry Spencer<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Gary Baluha <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:gumby3203@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">gumby3203@gmail.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV class=Ih2E3d>On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Galen Johnson <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:Galen.Johnson@sas.com" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">Galen.Johnson@sas.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I'm
not saying they weren't very nice...I agree it could have been handled in
a much less friendly manner...lawyers never cease to amuse me.<BR><BR>Of
course, when we pick a new name, I'm going to have to figure out a
different name for The Shire to go with it...maybe I'll call it "Live Dog"
or "Undead Hamster" or "Flushed Fish"... :-D<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Hahah, "Undead Hamster"! That name immediately reminded me of
the "Hampster Dance"<BR>[<A
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampster_Dance" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampster_Dance</A>]<BR> <BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:<A
href="mailto:henrik@hswn.dk" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">henrik@hswn.dk</A>]<BR>Sent: Monday, August 04,
2008 10:32 AM<BR>To: <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR>Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't
make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight
name change will happen)<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>In <<A
href="mailto:36304.192.168.0.1.1217859745.squirrel@epperson.homelinux.net"
target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">36304.192.168.0.1.1217859745.squirrel@epperson.homelinux.net</A>>
"Hobbit User in Richmond" <<A
href="mailto:hobbit@epperson.homelinux.net" target=_blank
moz-do-not-send="true">hobbit@epperson.homelinux.net</A>>
writes:<BR><BR>>On Mon, August 4, 2008 09:00, Galen Johnson
wrote:<BR>>> After reading the letters, it looked to me that as soon
as they found out<BR>>> they couldn't pin anyone down to get a slice
of the ephemeral pie, they<BR>>> decided that the name should be
changed.<BR><BR>>Well, as a PHB who's also a Linux lead, the way I read
the letters is that<BR>>as soon as they found out they couldn't pin
anyone down to commit to not<BR>>selling slices of their client's
pie and not giving any more of it away<BR>>than was already the case,
they wanted a name change. I thought the<BR>>attitude was quite
refreshing after seeing decades worth of
threatening<BR>>cease-and-desist letters.<BR><BR><BR>I agree. I think
they have been treated me nicely; they could have just<BR>sent me a
"stop-doing-this-or-we'll-sue-you-now" letter. They didn't,<BR>and in fact
they have been generous to suggest a couple of possible<BR>name changes
that I could do which would keep them happy.<BR><BR>Add to this that they
actually knew what I was talking about, when I<BR>told them that Hobbit is
an Open Source product, so there is no money<BR>involved.<BR><BR>They have
a trademark to defend, and one of the rules of that game is<BR>that they
MUST react when they become aware of possible violations of<BR>their
trademark; if they don't, then they can forfeit their ownership<BR>of the
trademark. So they have to do something, and I think they handled<BR>this
nicely.<BR><BR>Sure - having to rename everythin IS annoying, but I should
have thought<BR>about that when I first picked the
name.<BR><BR><BR>Regards,<BR>Henrik<BR><BR><BR>To unsubscribe from the
hobbit list, send an e-mail to<BR><A
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