<div dir="ltr">The rrd version should be okay, after all it is graphing data from other hosts with no problem.<br><br>It would appear that you ncv and graph configurations are correct as you say they are working for other hosts. This would indicate it is a problem with this host's configuration, so where to look...<br>
<br>Just out of interest, can you take an rrd file this test from a host that works, and copy it into the .../data/rrd/hostname directory of the host that does not?<br><br>I would expect after doing this that you will have a graph for this host. Can you confirm this works? After doing this and leaving it for 10 minutes, do you see any new data in the graph?<br>
<br>Can you dump the data from this rrd file?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/25 Ward, Martin <<a href="mailto:Martin.Ward@colt.net">Martin.Ward@colt.net</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div class="Ih2E3d">
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>>
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Are you saying that you run
the same tests on multiple hosts and only one host in not showing
data?</font></span></font></div>
</div><div><font><span>Yes.</span></font></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>>
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">Does this mean they all share
the same NCV configuration in hobberserver.cfg and the same graph definition in
hobbitgraph.cfg?</font></span></font></div>
</div><div><font><span>Yes.</span></font></div><div class="Ih2E3d">
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>>
<font color="#000000" face="Times New Roman" size="3">What if you remove the rrd
file and let hobbit create a new one, does that help?
</font></span></font></div>
</div><div><font><span>I did this and as you'd expect
initially the web page showed no graph although it did show data (stored from
the previous run I presume).</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>After
an interval the file appeared again but running "rrdtool dump" on it STILL
failed to produce any data.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>I'm
starting to wonder about the versions of RRD, but they ought to be
data-compatible; I'm using rrdtool v1.2.15.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>The
histlogs show no errors, the hist/mc25,... data file contains valid data. I DO
get a few RRD errors like this:</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>rrd-status.log:2008-07-21 09:46:19 RRD error updating
/opt/hobbit/data/rrd/<a href="http://mc25.lon.server.colt.net/tcp.smtp.rrd" target="_blank">mc25.lon.server.colt.net/tcp.smtp.rrd</a> from <a href="http://10.44.107.48" target="_blank">10.44.107.48</a>:
illegal attempt to update using time 1216633579 when last update time is
1216633579 (minimum one second step)<br></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>which
make it look like Hobbit is actually updating the RRD file... I just can't get
any data out!</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>|\/|</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font> </div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
<div></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><div class="Ih2E3d">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Phil Wild
[mailto:<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com" target="_blank">philwild@gmail.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 24 July 2008 16:31<br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [hobbit] Graphs are missing data, but
it's there!<br><br></div></div></font></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">
<div dir="ltr">Are you saying that you run the same tests on multiple hosts and
only one host in not showing data? Does this mean they all share the same NCV
configuration in hobberserver.cfg and the same graph definition in
hobbitgraph.cfg?<br><br>If this is correct, then it really points to something
not getting into the rrd file. As previously suggested, rrd dump is your best
bet at finding the problem here. What if you remove the rrd file and let
hobbit create a new one, does that help? <br><br>Cheers<br><br>Phil<br><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2008/7/24 Hubbard, Greg L <<a href="mailto:greg.hubbard@eds.com" target="_blank">greg.hubbard@eds.com</a>>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">You know
the data exists because you used the rrd dump tool to display
it?</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Is the
graph simply not shown at all, or is there a "hole" in the Web page where it
normally would go? ("show page source" might have a
clue).</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Some
ideas/shots in the dark:</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">a) check
the logs</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">b)
meticulously compare a "working" system to the non-working system, and make
sure that they really are identical.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span></span><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">c) look at the trends page for this host to see if the graph is okay there...</font></font></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font size="-0"><font size="-0"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2">E<span>tc. I am sure you know the drill -- a big pain to look
under every rock, but it has to be
done...</span></font></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><font size="-0"><font size="-0"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span></span></font></font></font></font></font> </div>
<div><font size="-0"><font size="-0"><font face="Arial"><font color="#0000ff"><font size="2"><span>GLH</span></font></font></font></font></font></div>
<div><br></div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px;">
<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
<hr>
<font face="Tahoma" size="2">
<div><b>From:</b> Ward, Martin [mailto:<a href="mailto:Martin.Ward@colt.net" target="_blank">Martin.Ward@colt.net</a>]
<br></div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:21 AM
<div>
<div></div>
<div><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [hobbit] Graphs
are missing data, but it's there!<br></div></div></font><br></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div>
<div></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Thanks for the suggestion
but that didn't work (I guess you meant rrd).</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Any other
ideas?</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span> </div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">|\/|</font></span></div>
<blockquote style="margin-right: 0px;">
<div></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"><font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> Roberts, James
[mailto:<a href="mailto:James.Roberts@hants.gov.uk" target="_blank">James.Roberts@hants.gov.uk</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 24 July
2008 12:47<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [hobbit] Graphs
are missing data, but it's there!<br><br></font></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>you
need to touch all the rdd.</span></font></div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font><br>
<div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
<hr>
<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Ward, Martin [mailto:<a href="mailto:Martin.Ward@colt.net" target="_blank">Martin.Ward@colt.net</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 24 July 2008
12:43<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [hobbit] Graphs are
missing data, but it's there!<br></font><br></div>
<div></div>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">All,</font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">I have a problem with one machine where its
data is not being shown in the graphs even though the data
exists.</font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">The machine in question's Hobbit client sends
five pieces of numeric data (email queues) and these are displayed on
the web page for this service:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">====</font> <br><b><font face="Arial" size="4">Thursday July 24 11:29:11 UTC 2008</font></b> <br><br><font face="Courier New" size="2">ActiveStatus: </font> <a href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif" target="_blank"><u></u><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2">green</font></u></a><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">ActiveQueue: 106<br>ActiveTrend: tendency</font><b> <font face="Courier New" size="2">rising</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2"> with</font><b> <font face="Courier New" size="2">-60</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2">
mails.<br>BounceStatus: </font> <a href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif" target="_blank"><u></u><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2">green</font></u></a><br><font face="Courier New" size="2">BounceQueue: 58<br>
BounceTrend: tendency</font><b> <font face="Courier New" size="2">falling</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2"> with</font><b> <font face="Courier New" size="2">3</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2"> mails.<br>
DeferStatus: </font> <a href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/red.gif" target="_blank"><u></u><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2">red</font></u></a><br><font face="Courier New" size="2">DeferQueue:
150464<br>DeferTrend: tendency</font><b> <font face="Courier New" size="2">falling</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2"> with</font><b>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">95</font></b><font face="Courier New" size="2"> mails.<br>CorruptStatus: </font> <a href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif" target="_blank"><u></u><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2">green</font></u></a><br>
<font face="Courier New" size="2">CorruptQueue: 0<br>CorruptTrend: amount equal to last
measure.<br>IncomingStatus: </font> <a href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/red.gif" target="_blank"><u></u><u><font color="#0000ff" face="Courier New" size="2">red</font></u></a><br><font face="Courier New" size="2">IncomingQueue: 247049<br>
IncomingTrend: amount equal to last
measure.<br><br> Deferred Queue is too high but is decreasing
already.</font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">====</font> <br><font face="Arial" size="2">These
numbers change over time and the values are accurate.</font> </p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">However, the graph that is displayed below
this data is blank. I have historic data, the files exist, and what is
more I have other machines that are configured identically to this one
where the data IS graphed correctly.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial" size="2">Hobbit graphs are a bit of a black hole to
me, can anyone suggest where I might look?</font> </p>
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