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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Are you saying that you run
the same tests on multiple hosts and only one host in not showing
data?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>Yes.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>Does this mean they all share
the same NCV configuration in hobberserver.cfg and the same graph definition in
hobbitgraph.cfg?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>Yes.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>>
<FONT face="Times New Roman" color=#000000 size=3>What if you remove the rrd
file and let hobbit create a new one, does that help?
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>I did this and as you'd expect
initially the web page showed no graph although it did show data (stored from
the previous run I presume).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>After
an interval the file appeared again but running "rrdtool dump" on it STILL
failed to produce any data.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>I'm
starting to wonder about the versions of RRD, but they ought to be
data-compatible; I'm using rrdtool v1.2.15.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>The
histlogs show no errors, the hist/mc25,... data file contains valid data. I DO
get a few RRD errors like this:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008>rrd-status.log:2008-07-21 09:46:19 RRD error updating
/opt/hobbit/data/rrd/mc25.lon.server.colt.net/tcp.smtp.rrd from 10.44.107.48:
illegal attempt to update using time 1216633579 when last update time is
1216633579 (minimum one second step)<BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=332420616-24072008>which
make it look like Hobbit is actually updating the RRD file... I just can't get
any data out!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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class=332420616-24072008>|\/|</DIV></SPAN></FONT>
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class=332420616-24072008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Phil Wild
[mailto:philwild@gmail.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July 2008 16:31<BR><B>To:</B>
hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [hobbit] Graphs are missing data, but
it's there!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr>Are you saying that you run the same tests on multiple hosts and
only one host in not showing data? Does this mean they all share the same NCV
configuration in hobberserver.cfg and the same graph definition in
hobbitgraph.cfg?<BR><BR>If this is correct, then it really points to something
not getting into the rrd file. As previously suggested, rrd dump is your best
bet at finding the problem here. What if you remove the rrd file and let
hobbit create a new one, does that help? <BR><BR>Cheers<BR><BR>Phil<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>2008/7/24 Hubbard, Greg L <<A
href="mailto:greg.hubbard@eds.com">greg.hubbard@eds.com</A>>:<BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>You know
the data exists because you used the rrd dump tool to display
it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Is the
graph simply not shown at all, or is there a "hole" in the Web page where it
normally would go? ("show page source" might have a
clue).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Some
ideas/shots in the dark:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>a) check
the logs</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>b)
meticulously compare a "working" system to the non-working system, and make
sure that they really are identical.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>c) look at the trends page for this host to see if the graph is okay there...</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>E<SPAN>tc. I am sure you know the drill -- a big pain to look
under every rock, but it has to be
done...</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><FONT size=+0><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2><SPAN>GLH</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=Ih2E3d><B>From:</B> Ward, Martin [mailto:<A
href="mailto:Martin.Ward@colt.net" target=_blank>Martin.Ward@colt.net</A>]
<BR></DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 24, 2008 8:21 AM
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c><BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk"
target=_blank>hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [hobbit] Graphs
are missing data, but it's there!<BR></DIV></DIV></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks for the suggestion
but that didn't work (I guess you meant rrd).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Any other
ideas?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>|\/|</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Roberts, James
[mailto:<A href="mailto:James.Roberts@hants.gov.uk"
target=_blank>James.Roberts@hants.gov.uk</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July
2008 12:47<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk"
target=_blank>hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [hobbit] Graphs
are missing data, but it's there!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN>you
need to touch all the rdd.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Ward, Martin [mailto:<A
href="mailto:Martin.Ward@colt.net"
target=_blank>Martin.Ward@colt.net</A>] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 24 July 2008
12:43<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk"
target=_blank>hobbit@hswn.dk</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> [hobbit] Graphs are
missing data, but it's there!<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>All,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>I have a problem with one machine where its
data is not being shown in the graphs even though the data
exists.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>The machine in question's Hobbit client sends
five pieces of numeric data (email queues) and these are displayed on
the web page for this service:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>====</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial
size=4>Thursday July 24 11:29:11 UTC 2008</FONT></B> <BR><BR><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>ActiveStatus: </FONT> <A
href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif"
target=_blank><U></U><U><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff
size=2>green</FONT></U></A><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>ActiveQueue: 106<BR>ActiveTrend: tendency</FONT><B> <FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>rising</FONT></B><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2> with</FONT><B> <FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>-60</FONT></B><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>
mails.<BR>BounceStatus: </FONT> <A
href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif"
target=_blank><U></U><U><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff
size=2>green</FONT></U></A><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>BounceQueue: 58<BR>BounceTrend: tendency</FONT><B> <FONT
face="Courier New" size=2>falling</FONT></B><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2> with</FONT><B> <FONT face="Courier New" size=2>3</FONT></B><FONT
face="Courier New" size=2> mails.<BR>DeferStatus: </FONT> <A
href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/red.gif"
target=_blank><U></U><U><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff
size=2>red</FONT></U></A><BR><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>DeferQueue:
150464<BR>DeferTrend: tendency</FONT><B> <FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>falling</FONT></B><FONT face="Courier New" size=2> with</FONT><B>
<FONT face="Courier New" size=2>95</FONT></B><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2> mails.<BR>CorruptStatus: </FONT> <A
href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/green.gif"
target=_blank><U></U><U><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff
size=2>green</FONT></U></A><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>CorruptQueue: 0<BR>CorruptTrend: amount equal to last
measure.<BR>IncomingStatus: </FONT> <A
href="http://hbt0.lon.oss.colt.net/hobbit/gifs/red.gif"
target=_blank><U></U><U><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff
size=2>red</FONT></U></A><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>IncomingQueue: 247049<BR>IncomingTrend: amount equal to last
measure.<BR><BR> Deferred Queue is too high but is decreasing
already.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>====</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>These
numbers change over time and the values are accurate.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>However, the graph that is displayed below
this data is blank. I have historic data, the files exist, and what is
more I have other machines that are configured identically to this one
where the data IS graphed correctly.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hobbit graphs are a bit of a black hole to
me, can anyone suggest where I might look?</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>|\/|artin</FONT> </P><FONT
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