<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML xmlns:v = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 =
"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1>
<META content=Word.Document name=ProgId>
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16674" name=GENERATOR>
<META content="Microsoft Word 11" name=Originator><LINK
href="cid:filelist.xml@01C8D6E5.D01EBF70" rel=File-List><LINK
href="cid:editdata.mso" rel=Edit-Time-Data>
<STYLE>
v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
.shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}
</STYLE>
<o:SmartTagType namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="country-region"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="Street"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="address"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="City"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType
namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"
name="place"></o:SmartTagType>
<STYLE>
st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }
</STYLE>
<STYLE>
<!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
{font-family:Tahoma;
panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;
mso-font-charset:0;
mso-generic-font-family:swiss;
mso-font-pitch:variable;
mso-font-signature:1627421319 -2147483648 8 0 66047 0;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
{mso-style-parent:"";
margin:0in;
margin-bottom:.0001pt;
mso-pagination:widow-orphan;
font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;
text-underline:single;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
{color:blue;
text-decoration:underline;
text-underline:single;}
span.EmailStyle17
{mso-style-type:personal-reply;
mso-style-noshow:yes;
mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;
mso-ascii-font-family:Arial;
mso-hansi-font-family:Arial;
mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;
color:navy;}
span.SpellE
{mso-style-name:"";
mso-spl-e:yes;}
span.GramE
{mso-style-name:"";
mso-gram-e:yes;}
@page Section1
{size:8.5in 11.0in;
margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;
mso-header-margin:.5in;
mso-footer-margin:.5in;
mso-paper-source:0;}
div.Section1
{page:Section1;}
-->
</STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY lang=EN-US id=MailContainerBody
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 10px; PADDING-LEFT: 10px; PADDING-TOP: 15px; tab-interval: .5in"
vLink=blue link=blue bgColor=#ffffff leftMargin=0 topMargin=0
name="Compose message area" CanvasTabStop="true">
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is not just MS's smtp server, older sendmail
versions will also trigger false alerts also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I got a Solaris 2.6 running very old version of
sendmail and keep triggering false alerts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the end, I gave up on monitoring that particular
sendmail server. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>tj</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Tahoma">
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=bewhite@fellowes.com
href="mailto:bewhite@fellowes.com">White, Bruce</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:06 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=hobbit@hswn.dk
href="mailto:'hobbit@hswn.dk'">'hobbit@hswn.dk'</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> RE: [hobbit] Service SMTP on xxxxxx is not OK : Unexpected
service response</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We had a similar
problem with our exchange server until I changed the bb-services file to
be:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT face="Courier New"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">[<SPAN
class=GramE>smtp</SPAN>]<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT face="Courier New"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>send</SPAN>
"helo\r\nquit\r\n"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT face="Courier New"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>expect</SPAN>
"220"<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT face="Courier New"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>options</SPAN>
banner<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="mso-layout-grid-align: none"><FONT face="Courier New"
color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><SPAN class=GramE>port</SPAN>
25<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Now the exchange
response to <SPAN class=GramE>smtp</SPAN> is much more stable, but my linux
sendmail servers complain more often.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I guess I need to make a smtpex
with the above and restore the original <SPAN class=GramE>smtp</SPAN>
definition, which seemed to work better with Linux.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Why can’t MS just do things to
standards?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>……Bruce<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV class=MsoNormal style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR tabIndex=-1 align=center width="100%" SIZE=2>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Geoff
Hallford [mailto:geoff.hallford@gmail.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, June 25, 2008 11:53
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re:
[hobbit] Service smtp on xxxxxx is not OK : Unexpected service
response</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have also seen this happen when the response is slow
from the mail server to show the 220 message. It does show it but is slow for
some reason. I create a new service called smtp-slow by adding the following and
then configure the bb-hosts entry with 'smtp-slow' instead of smtp. Just a
thought.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This way it doesn't require a 220 response but if it
gets a valid "connection" it is okay. If it can't open a connection, it goes
red. It does limit the amount of app validation but it is the only thing
that worked in my case.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">[smtp-slow]<BR> send
"mail\r\nquit\r\n"<BR> options banner<BR> port
25<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Clarke <<A
href="mailto:andrew@bccit.co.uk">andrew@bccit.co.uk</A>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">As it happens, there are PIXs between the hobbit server
& all the<BR>Exchange servers. However, they've all been there for ages
(years in<BR>some cases).<BR><BR>I'll have a chat with our resident Cisco guru
& see if he made any<BR>changes at our end around 6th June, when things
stopped working.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR>Andrew Clarke<BR>Support and Technical
Development Officer<BR>BCC IT Solutions<BR>DDI: 0871 288 2036<BR>Tel: +44
(0)1239 710823<BR><A href="http://www.bccit.co.uk/"
target=_blank>http://www.bccit.co.uk/</A><BR>Providers of business to business
IT Solutions & Services<BR>Back-up - Anti Virus - Security - Servers -
Wireless Networks - VPN - Remote Monitoring - Project Consultation Hardware
Provision Servers & Workstations - Disaster Recovery - Proactive Diagnostics
- System Migration - Fibre CAT5e Server Administration - Forensics - Grant
Appraisal - Network Management - System Appraisals - Support Contracts
...<BR>For full e-mail terms & conditions of use, please follow the link to
the bcc web site <A
href="http://www.bccitsolutions.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=1"
target=_blank>http://www.bccitsolutions.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=1</A><BR>BCC
IT Solutions is a trading name of European Computer Units Limited, Registered in
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Cardiff</st1:place></st1:City>, Company
Registration No. 2651835<BR>Registered Office: <st1:address
w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Unit B Station Road</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Newcastle</st1:City></st1:address> Emlyn, Carmarthenshire,
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Wales</st1:place></st1:country-region>, SA38
9BX<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">-----Original Message-----<BR><BR>From: Rob
MacGregor [mailto:<A
href="mailto:rob.macgregor@gmail.com">rob.macgregor@gmail.com</A>]<BR><BR>You
wouldn't happen to have a Cisco PIX/ASA between the hobbit host and<BR>the mail
server, with it configured to do "fixup"? Those are known for<BR>breaking
things ;)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Rob MacGregor<BR><BR><BR>To unsubscribe
from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to<BR><A
href="mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe@hswn.dk">hobbit-unsubscribe@hswn.dk</A><BR
style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR
style="mso-special-character: line-break"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>'If my answers frighten you
then you should cease asking scary questions.' --Sam Jackson
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><BR><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial
size=2>----------------------------------------------------</FONT></P>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial size=2>Note:</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial size=2> The
information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and
protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended
recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to
the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you
have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by
replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Fellowes,
Inc.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial
size=2>----------------------------------------------------</FONT></P></BODY></HTML>