After those three mornings would mind commenting those hosts to be certain that reproduces the issue?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Gavin Leonard <<a href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com">gleonard@progrexion.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Ok.. well it did not do it this morning after adding all of my
monitored hosts to the /etc/hosts file… I just cut and copied my bb-hosts file
in to my /etc/hosts file, modified in to proper format.. no pages this
morning.. so it could have been a dns issue.. if I am clear for three more
mornings then I will be satisfied… I will let you know..</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-Gavin</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Josh Luthman
[mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:24 PM<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [hobbit] wake up call</div></div></span></p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Thanks for the heads up.
I am very interested in knowing what is the cause and more importantly the
solution to your issue, as it may fix mine!<br>
<br>
It would VERY nice to be able to print out uptime and availability reports
without the dozens of 1 minute outages. I know my issue is related to the
box itself (hardware or software) as the issue appears on the hobbit server
itself.</p>
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<p>On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:17 AM, Gavin Leonard <<a href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com" target="_blank">gleonard@progrexion.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Most if not all of my servers
are defined by ip anyway, I have a very segmented network so dns is not very
helpful across all the different domains and subnets.. i use my hosts file for
the most part.. now that I think of it, I wonder if the ones in the host file
are still ok? I will let you know…</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">-Gavin</span></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> Phil Wild [mailto:<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com" target="_blank">philwild@gmail.com</a>]
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:12 PM</span></p>
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<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [hobbit] wake up call</span></p>
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<p>Can I suggest you use IP addresses for a number of servers and see if they
survive through your next episode. That will give you an idea of where the
problem might be...</p>
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<p>It is the least amount of work towards identifying the cause.</p>
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<p>Cheers</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Phil</p>
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<p>2008/5/20 Hosch, Katherine CONT (SPAWAR ITC) <<a href="mailto:katherine.hosch@navy.mil" target="_blank">katherine.hosch@navy.mil</a>>:</p>
<p>Check your apache log restarts in cron....</p>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:38<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [hobbit] wake up call<br>
<br>
What most people suggest is having a local DNS server, on the Hobbitmon<br>
server itself.<br>
<br>
As this is happening at the same time every single day I don't believe<br>
DNS would be the cause of the issue, though it is worth taking a look at<br>
until another idea comes along.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Gavin Leonard<br>
<<a href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com" target="_blank">gleonard@progrexion.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<br>
Happened again this morning.. so I am going to try a
different<br>
dns server.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-Gavin<br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Phil Wild [mailto:<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com" target="_blank">philwild@gmail.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 10:38 PM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:hobbit@hswn.dk" target="_blank">hobbit@hswn.dk</a><br>
Subject: Re: [hobbit] wake up call<br>
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<br>
Hmmm... bummer, there goes that theory... If you are
using IP<br>
addresses, and you are still getting failures on these hosts, then dns<br>
is not involved. A ttl of five minutes is fairly worthless for a caching<br>
server. It only helps if it hits the same device within five minutes, as<br>
hobbit is pinging every five mins (default), you will most likely always<br>
be pulling from your master/slaves...<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<br>
<br>
Well almost (good 99%) of my hosts have the testip
tag, so it<br>
doesn't<br>
need to look up the names. The things it does
look up are 5m<br>
TTLs<br>
<br>
though.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 5/19/08, Phil Wild <<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com" target="_blank">philwild@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> What is ttl set to for your domain? It would be
interesting to<br>
see if the<br>
> issue reduces with a higher ttl. Another way to
ensure this is<br>
not the area<br>
> of the issue would be to set the dns server up
as a slave.<br>
><br>
> Phil<br>
><br>
> 2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> That was someone's theory in a very large
post about this<br>
issue in the<br>
>> past. I did install a caching only
named on the box and it<br>
did not<br>
>> fix the problem.<br>
>><br>
>> Did relieve the stress of my other DNS
server though :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 5/19/08, Phil Wild <<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com" target="_blank">philwild@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Josh,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This doesn't relate to the apache
error, it relates to your<br>
problem...<br>
>> This<br>
>> > is a theory...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am wondering if you are running a
caching name server on<br>
your hobbit<br>
>> > installation? If not, I am wondering
if the fping places<br>
too high a load<br>
>> on<br>
>> > your dns server and misses the
occassional host. Even with<br>
a caching dns<br>
>> > server you may see the issue every
time ttl expires.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Phil<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com" target="_blank">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Gavin,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am having a very similar issue -
though it is not every<br>
single day.<br>
>> My<br>
>> >> issue is that every host (or
almost all of the hosts) will<br>
have<br>
>> >> conn:red<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> then come back up ~60s later.
I just confirmed this<br>
weekend that it is<br>
>> >> not<br>
>> >> related the Via NIC (Using an
Intel Pro/100 S now).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> An issue like that is almost
always Apache related. Can<br>
you post the<br>
>> >> errors in /var/log/httpd/error_log
from this time period?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Josh<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM,
Gavin Leonard<br>
<<a href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com" target="_blank">gleonard@progrexion.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Every morning at 7am I
get pages from every host I<br>
monitor including<br>
>> the<br>
>> >>> display server, that its
connection recovered.. the it<br>
runs great for<br>
>> >>> the<br>
>> >>> next 23hrs. looking at
hobbit web page I see no down<br>
time nor do the<br>
>> >>> servers show any down time.
But when I click on the<br>
historical web<br>
>> link<br>
>> >>> to<br>
>> >>> see the info.. I get this.. I
really love hobbit.. but I<br>
am not a Web<br>
>> >>> guy<br>
>> >>> at all and I think it might be
apache related...<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> *Internal Server Error*<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> The server encountered an
internal error or<br>
misconfiguration and was<br>
>> >>> unable to complete your
request.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Please contact the server
administrator, root@localhost<br>
and inform<br>
>> them<br>
>> >>> of the time the error
occurred, and anything you might<br>
have done that<br>
>> may<br>
>> >>> have caused the error.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> More information about this
error may be available in the<br>
server error<br>
>> >>> log.<br>
>> >>>
------------------------------<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> *Apache/2.0.54 (Yellowdog)
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Port 80*<br>
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