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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Happened again this morning.. so I am going to try a different
dns server.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>-Gavin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Phil Wild
[mailto:philwild@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 19, 2008 10:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> hobbit@hswn.dk<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [hobbit] wake up call<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hmmm... bummer, there goes that theory... If you are using
IP addresses, and you are still getting failures on these hosts, then dns is
not involved. A ttl of five minutes is fairly worthless for a caching server.
It only helps if it hits the same device within five minutes, as hobbit is
pinging every five mins (default), you will most likely always be pulling from
your master/slaves...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Phil<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a
href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Well almost (good 99%) of my hosts have the testip tag, so
it doesn't<br>
need to look up the names. The things it does look up are 5m TTLs<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>though.<br>
<br>
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<br>
On 5/19/08, Phil Wild <<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com">philwild@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> What is ttl set to for your domain? It would be interesting to see if the<br>
> issue reduces with a higher ttl. Another way to ensure this is not the
area<br>
> of the issue would be to set the dns server up as a slave.<br>
><br>
> Phil<br>
><br>
> 2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<br>
><br>
>> That was someone's theory in a very large post about this issue in the<br>
>> past. I did install a caching only named on the box and it did
not<br>
>> fix the problem.<br>
>><br>
>> Did relieve the stress of my other DNS server though :)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 5/19/08, Phil Wild <<a href="mailto:philwild@gmail.com">philwild@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
>> > Hi Josh,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > This doesn't relate to the apache error, it relates to your
problem...<br>
>> This<br>
>> > is a theory...<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am wondering if you are running a caching name server on your
hobbit<br>
>> > installation? If not, I am wondering if the fping places too high
a load<br>
>> on<br>
>> > your dns server and misses the occassional host. Even with a
caching dns<br>
>> > server you may see the issue every time ttl expires.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Phil<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2008/5/20 Josh Luthman <<a
href="mailto:josh@imaginenetworksllc.com">josh@imaginenetworksllc.com</a>>:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> Gavin,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I am having a very similar issue - though it is not every
single day.<br>
>> My<br>
>> >> issue is that every host (or almost all of the hosts) will
have<br>
>> >> conn:red<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> then come back up ~60s later. I just confirmed this
weekend that it is<br>
>> >> not<br>
>> >> related the Via NIC (Using an Intel Pro/100 S now).<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> An issue like that is almost always Apache related. Can
you post the<br>
>> >> errors in /var/log/httpd/error_log from this time period?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Josh<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 3:26 PM, Gavin Leonard <<a
href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com">gleonard@progrexion.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> >> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >>> Every morning at 7am I get pages from every host I
monitor including<br>
>> the<br>
>> >>> display server, that its connection recovered.. the
it runs great for<br>
>> >>> the<br>
>> >>> next 23hrs. looking at hobbit web page I see no
down time nor do the<br>
>> >>> servers show any down time. But when I click on the
historical web<br>
>> link<br>
>> >>> to<br>
>> >>> see the info.. I get this.. I really love hobbit..
but I am not a Web<br>
>> >>> guy<br>
>> >>> at all and I think it might be apache related…<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> *Internal Server Error*<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> The server encountered an internal error or
misconfiguration and was<br>
>> >>> unable to complete your request.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Please contact the server administrator, root@localhost
and inform<br>
>> them<br>
>> >>> of the time the error occurred, and anything you might
have done that<br>
>> may<br>
>> >>> have caused the error.<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> More information about this error may be available in the
server error<br>
>> >>> log.<br>
>> >>> ------------------------------<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> *Apache/2.0.54 (Yellowdog) Server at misery.pgx.local
Port 80*<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> *Gavin Leonard*<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> [image: cid:image001.gif@01C856AD.922EF120]<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Director, Systems-Network Engineering<br>
>> >>><br>
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>> >>><br>
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>> >>><br>
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>> >>><br>
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>> >>><br>
>> >>> *E*<br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> <a href="mailto:gleonard@progrexion.com">gleonard@progrexion.com</a><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>> Research | Marketing | Sales Generation<br>
>> >>><br>
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>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
>> >>><br>
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