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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hi all, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>In contrast to others in this mailing list, I think the use
of the tooltips are very handy. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I agree that the tooltips make the output of the bb2 page a
bit different, but the big advance is that people instantly know which system is
having the problem. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Especially on the bb2 page, which is mostly used by
managers who don't know the names of the system. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Biggest challenge is to keep the tool tip within boundaries
but stil use full. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Regards, </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698024914-15112007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Bert</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Gore, David W (David)
[mailto:david.gore@verizonbusiness.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> donderdag 15 november
2007 15:20<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [hobbit]
tooltips<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=674154413-15112007>In regards to the
hobbit snapshot:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=674154413-15112007>They say a picture is worth a thousand words.
If the list server allows it, I have attached an image of my bb2.html
page. bb2 is our primary view and, as you can see from the image,
tooltips pushes all the hobbit columns out of the view to the right.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=674154413-15112007>Tooltips are the text you see when you hover over
items like the smiley's in hobbit? I suppose it has always worked well
for the little smiley gif icons, just not so well for the bb2 host links where
it seems to add the tooltip to the hostname rather than create floating
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<P><FONT size=2><SPAN class=674154413-15112007>~</SPAN>David<SPAN
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color=#0000ff> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Johann Eggers
[mailto:Johann.Eggers@teleatlas.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 15,
2007 13:11<BR><B>To:</B> hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B>Subject:</B> [hobbit]
tooltips<BR></FONT><BR></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Re: the tooltips
issue:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Isn’t it useful to
make this an option whether they should be displayed on the bb2 page or
not?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I really like the
tooltips but I agree with David that they will clutter your bb2 page so that
this page is not longer usable…</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN lang=EN-GB
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Johann</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Gore, David W (David)
[mailto:david.gore@verizonbusiness.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Donnerstag, 15. November 2007
13:47<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
hobbit@hswn.dk<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE:
[hobbit] stale alerts</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am running 4.2.0
with the allinone patch. I do have a suspicion that external server
side scripts could contribute to the stale alerts. In my case,
specifically a script that ssh's to a remote host and executes a shell
script on the remote host. It may also happen in conjunction with
these errors in the logs, which someone else recently
reported:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">page.log.1:2007-11-05
16:20:53 hobbitd_alert: Got message 14425, expected 14424</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As soon as the
issue with tooltips is resolved, I will be moving our primary hobbit to the
snapshot release.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>The snapshot, seems
much<BR>better, but with tooltips and host descriptions pushing our display
to<BR>the far right of the screen we cannot use it right
now.<BR><BR>~David</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT color=blue
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