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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hello all,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am Etienne Marganne, a new comer in TI Automotive, a
society which uses Hobbit as a monitoring tool, I will be in charge of Hobbit
tool. We would like to enhance our monitoring tool in order to get more detailed
informations through it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>One of the first thing we would like to do is to create a
dependency system between monitored hosts across our network. For all the
further discussion, please keep in mind that we have a very large network and
two Hobbit servers where we would like to keep the same “hh-hosts”
file. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The idea of the dependency system is the following one: once
we have a host that fails on a network path in our network all the hosts
further that one will be very likely unreachable. This will cause a lot of
alerts to be triggered because of one failure. This is not interesting because
our team will be flooded by those alerts. Therefore it could be useful to
create dependencies so that those further devices on the same path will not
trigger alerts (basically turning red).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>There is a specific tag that can be used to do such a work,
the “route” tag. In our case with two Hobbit servers, we would tune
that with the “route_BBLOCATION” tag. Knowing that there are Hobbit
clients on all the network nodes between the two endpoints, the simplest idea
would be to list all the nodes in the description of those tags. This could
work even if it would generate of job. A little bit further here, let’s
say that one node fails on a path, it is very probable that if you know that
the following nodes are unreachable, you may not want to test them anymore (to
forbid them to turn red). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Now think of a big network with a lot of redundancy, it is
very probable that there will be indeed a lot of network paths between a server
and one final host. If on one path one node fails, it does not mean that the
final client is not reachable. But with the “route” tag, that
client would be signal as unreachable since a member of the “route”
has failed. This is not comfortable at all. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>What we would like to know, or to get, if there is a way to
get this dependency system work: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hobbit Server A ---- 1 ---- 2 ---- 3 ---- 4 ---- Final Client<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'>
| |<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
| --------- 5 ------------6 ----------- | <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>There are two paths to reach the Final Client, one composed
by 1, 2, 3, 4 and another one composed by 5, 6. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>With the current “route” tag we would have such
a list of nodes: route_HobbitServerA:1,2,3,4,5,6 then if 1 fails and the path
1-2-3-4 would not work anymore but the 5-6 one would still. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>A good dependency system would to have such a thing: Final
Client depends on 4, 4 depends on 3, 3 depends on 2, 2 depends on 1 but Final
Clients also depends on 6 which depends on 5. More over this would also solve
that kind of topology :<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hobbit Server A ---- 1 ---- 2 ---- 3 ---- 4 ---- Final Client<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Arial'>
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|<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>
| --------- 5 ------------6 ----------- | Where
there is a link between 2 and 5, 2 and 6, 5 and 3, 6 and 3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Maybe that something could be set up with the “depends”
tag, however I do not know how the informations will propagate through the
different dependencies done that tag.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Even further on the topic, the “route” tag
performs only ping tests which does not seem enough to me. I would like to add
cpu, disks, … tests to the whole dependency system.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thank you for your help and answers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Etienne Marganne<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>TI Automotive.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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