[Xymon] Couple of questions on client data

David Boyer davieb at gmail.com
Mon Jan 11 00:51:55 CET 2016


JC,
      Yes, it does! Thanks for the background.. I've written/modified
several tests for my environment while we were still in the "big brother"
era.  I'm still
learning the ins/outs of xymon.  I'm intrigued by the use of the "local"
directory on the clientside.  Where might I find more information about
using this feature.

Dave

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Novosielski, Ryan <novosirj at ca.rutgers.edu>
wrote:

> I just wanted to thank you, JC, for this information. I wanted to know
> whether it would be possible to check the kernel version back some time
> even though that is something I did not test. I figured the info might show
> something, but that isn't kept in history or anything. If I had realized
> that a client data snapshot is kept when the status changes, I would have
> had the answer (which I still need, so it's very helpful).
>
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> On Jan 10, 2016, at 06:48, J.C. Cleaver <cleaver at terabithia.org> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
>
> On Sat, January 9, 2016 3:15 pm, David Boyer wrote:
>
> I see that there is data in the client data that is not turned into
>
> columns?  Can I turn this data into columns to report?  I'm using xymon
>
> 4.3.20 on both the client/server.
>
>
> On linux, I see that this data is not turned into any columns:
>
> [who]
>
> [route]
>
> [netstat]
>
> [ifstat]
>
>
> Not that I'd use all of them, just wondering what the reasoning is behind
>
> it.
>
>
> This is correct. The client data is a full raw text of various bits of
> information that can be used to create status messages out of, but there
> isn't a mandated 1:1 correspondence between each section and each test. By
> keeping them independent (raw data and central processing), you have the
> flexibility to write up new tests based off of already-existing incoming
> data, and/or add new "raw" data without having a specific test in mind.
>
> For the 'who' data in particular, there's a sample processor in the source
> tarball that can demonstrate how easy it is to add simple new tests at
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/xymon/code/HEAD/tree/branches/4.3.24/xymond/xymond_rootlogin.pl
>
> You can easily add new sections to the client data by adding files to a
> "/local/" directory on the client machine, or editing the
> xymonclient-${OS}.sh shell script by hand, and running any command that
> the unprivileged 'xymon' user can execute.
>
> What's the benefit to all this additional data if it's not used? Primarily
> forensics and triage. As the xymon(7) man page puts it:
>
> The Xymon user-interface is simple, but engineers will also find lots of
>
> relevant information. E.g. the data that clients report to Xymon contain
> the raw output from a number of system commands. That information is
> available directly in Xymon, so an administrator no longer needs to
> login to a server to get an overview of how it is behaving - the very
> commands they would normally run have already been performed, and the
> results are on-line in Xymon.
>
> https://www.xymon.com/help/manpages/man7/xymon.7.html
>
>
>
> This becomes even more relevant when you consider snapshoting. When a
> status goes "red", a snapshot of the client data at that time is kept. So
> if you went back later to try to figure out why (e.g.) CPU was rising, the
> output of the '[who]' section tells you who might have been doing
> something then, even if the data wasn't used for making a test out of at
> that time.
>
>
>
>
> Also, I notice that getting the data via xymondboard is not 100% either...
>
>
> [xymon at ztest bin]$ ./xymon 192.168.1.230 "clientlog yumlist section=who"
>
> *snip*
>
>
> As you can see below, requesting a status on all the tests, there is no
>
> "who" being reported.
>
> But just a moment ago, asking for just that data it works.
>
>
> [xymon at ztest bin]$ ./xymon 192.168.1.230 "xymondboard host=yumlist"
>
> *snip*
>
>
> Correct. The "clientlog" command retrieves the most recent raw client
> data, while the "xymondboard" command retrieves just the status messages
> (the tests that you see on the webpages).
>
> The "clientlog" column on the web page, much like the "info" and "trends"
> columns, isn't a real test... it's just present to provide easy access to
> the most recent data. You can also access it from the "Client data" link
> on the bottom of any of that host's status pages.
>
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> -jc
>
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