[hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)

T.J. Yang tj_yang at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 4 17:48:24 CEST 2008



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From: "Galen Johnson" <Galen.Johnson at sas.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:23 AM
To: <hobbit at hswn.dk>
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" 
name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)

> I started out on sourceforge...it didn't work out too well.

My idea SCM site to hose hobbit is Trac. but I am willing to go with lowest 
common denominator (sourceforge ;).

I am documenting my learning hobbit and svn here

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Developer_Guide#SVN_tutorial

tj

> -----Original Message-----
> From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:01 AM
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] 
> "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Galen Johnson" <Galen.Johnson at sas.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:52 AM
> To: <hobbit at hswn.dk>
> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] 
> "Hobbit"
> name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
>
>> I'm not saying they weren't very nice...I agree it could have been 
>> handled
>> in a much less friendly manner...lawyers never cease to amuse me.
>>
>> Of course, when we pick a new name, I'm going to have to figure out a
>> different name for The Shire to go with it...maybe I'll call it "Live 
>> Dog"
>> or "Undead Hamster" or "Flushed Fish"... :-D
>
> Since Henrik is going to use sourceforge more and open up the acess,
>
> How about  use sourceforge.net to host hobbit add-ons(The Shire)  ?
>
> Lets pool in limited hobbit resources together.
>
> tj
>
>> =G=
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk]
>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:32 AM
>> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
>> Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit]
>> "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
>>
>> In <36304.192.168.0.1.1217859745.squirrel at epperson.homelinux.net> "Hobbit
>> User in Richmond" <hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net> writes:
>>
>>>On Mon, August 4, 2008 09:00, Galen Johnson wrote:
>>>> After reading the letters, it looked to me that as soon as they found
>>>> out
>>>> they couldn't pin anyone down to get a slice of the ephemeral pie, they
>>>> decided that the name should be changed.
>>
>>>Well, as a PHB who's also a Linux lead, the way I read the letters is 
>>>that
>>>as soon as they found out they couldn't pin anyone down to commit to not
>>>selling  slices of their client's pie and not giving any more of it away
>>>than was already the case, they wanted a name change.  I thought the
>>>attitude was quite refreshing after seeing decades worth of threatening
>>>cease-and-desist letters.
>>
>>
>> I agree. I think they have been treated me nicely; they could have just
>> sent me a "stop-doing-this-or-we'll-sue-you-now" letter. They didn't,
>> and in fact they have been generous to suggest a couple of possible
>> name changes that I could do which would keep them happy.
>>
>> Add to this that they actually knew what I was talking about, when I
>> told them that Hobbit is an Open Source product, so there is no money
>> involved.
>>
>> They have a trademark to defend, and one of the rules of that game is
>> that they MUST react when they become aware of possible violations of
>> their trademark; if they don't, then they can forfeit their ownership
>> of the trademark. So they have to do something, and I think they handled
>> this nicely.
>>
>> Sure - having to rename everythin IS annoying, but I should have thought
>> about that when I first picked the name.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Henrik
>>
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